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Post by phoenx32 on Mar 27, 2020 14:16:31 GMT -5
Hello all! I just learned that a new controller I bought doesn't meet the fair play policy. Does anyone know if I can just adjust the controller settings to meet the requirements, or do I need a new controller entirely? Here's the controller I bought.Thanks for any input!
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Post by zzfr33b1rdzz on Mar 31, 2020 17:08:35 GMT -5
3rd party controllers typically do not pass the API. It states directly in the TGCT rules about 3rd party controllers under the fair play section that it is highly recommended to use standard Microsoft controllers as most 3rd party ones will fail the API..
So, you would be best to either use the controller that came with your system, OR, if you're going to buy a new one to make sure it's the official Microsoft controller. Be aware, however, that even stock controllers will fail the API from time-to-time, but far less frequent.
I've been playing since 2018, started out with the controller that came with my system, which was a bit beat up, so I bought a new one specifically for golf only and I haven't failed the API ever..
Good Luck!
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Post by bassman70 on Mar 31, 2020 17:37:09 GMT -5
I'm at a loss guys...I've always been against cheating, but I'm not the problem. I pull it back and push forward...
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Post by bassman70 on Mar 31, 2020 17:54:22 GMT -5
Are we being dq'd if we can't keep it in the cone? I have literally had the same swing since tgc1...I'm just really confused here...i don't cheat...never have...
I just streamed a round for everyone to watch so I could get some type of understanding.
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Post by blueorfe on Mar 31, 2020 18:41:07 GMT -5
Are we being dq'd if we can't keep it in the cone? I have literally had the same swing since tgc1...I'm just really confused here...i don't cheat...never have... I just streamed a round for everyone to watch so I could get some type of understanding. I know that you're not a cheat, it's very unfortunate that your natural swing has been caught up in this latest change to the rules. It's just that swinging consistently outside of the blue channel has been found to be an advantage and way less penal with direction misses than if you were swinging it in the channel: especially when lofting up. I just watched a few holes of your stream and to me it looks like 90% of your full shots have a tendency to finish outside of the blue channel to the right. That is what's flagging the api; if you did it every now and then i think that would be OK, but doing that most of the time will alert the api. I notice that you use fully lofted drivers a lot (even when there is probably no need too), plus I noticed that you tend to fully loft, or almost fully loft many other clubs too. That is only going to hurt your chances of passing this new api metric as the blue channel that you need to have most of your swings finish in, is very narrow. I only tend to fully loft the driver if I need some extra yards to reach a par 4, or get to a long par 5. I will fully loft an LW if I'm around 80-85 yards and the pitch isn't on, but that's pretty rare. With your pitches and chips, you seem to have a straighter line, not always, but more than your full shots. Do you use a different technique for those shots? If you could replicate those swings on a more regular basis then I think that you'd be OK. I know how annoying and frustrating this must be for you. Good luck getting it sorted out.
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Post by Doyley on Mar 31, 2020 18:45:47 GMT -5
Should also note that there is a way to get Fair Play support from the admin (it's in the email). Unless you are just looking for public support, in that case carry on.
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Post by GW_Hope on Mar 31, 2020 23:02:18 GMT -5
I'm at a loss guys...I've always been against cheating, but I'm not the problem. I pull it back and push forward... I know you don’t cheat. What I think happened is you unknowingly discovered the game glitch. Last spring you even posted how excited you were that your game was so much better now that you were playing your push or pull. Nobody at the time thought much of it. Until later on it was noticed that there was a huge margin for error on the push or pull swing. You could push it a little out of the cone or quite a bit out side and the ball landed in the same spot. You probably didn’t realize this but that is what is happening hence the decision to stop it. That said I would guess you are a thumb swinger like I am. I know what you are saying about the tail. It takes constant effort to keep it straight. I use my left thumb and it feels like I swing from about 6:30 to. 12:30 on the clock but that is probably because your thumb will naturally arc unless you consciously push away. Make sense?
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Post by bassman70 on Apr 1, 2020 6:15:02 GMT -5
Thank you for responding John...I am a thumb swinger. I've had the same swing since TGC1. The thing that gets me is I literally just pull back and push forward, concentrating to get it as straight as I can and get P/P swings. I have posted many times and watched streams as well and asked people how they swing so straight? My natural swing produces this curl at the top of the swing, sometimes it even shows up as right angle at the the very tip. Now, I have NO WAY of doing that on PURPOSE, which I would then understand would be trying to use an exploit. There is no way to pull back on the stick and then at the very top in a fraction of a second move your thumb in such a way you make it curl to the left or the right. That's what gets me I guess. I thought we were going after the guys that were swinging side ways or swinging from like 8 to 2 on the stick. Here is the crazy part to me also...if guys were streaming and we saw straight lines, they were "straight shooters." Now, we have to hit it as straight as possible or you're flagged. It seems like the cheaters have ruined this game for some of us. I wish I could sit in anyone's living room, just pick up any PS4 controller and show you how I just swing from top to bottom. Anyway, I'm done...I will try my best to adjust. Thank you to everyone who has responded. Maybe societies is the best way to have fun going forward. If we would have just kicked out anyone who was ACTUALLY cheating from the start, we wouldn't be here right now.
Is it easier to keep the swing in the cone on a lower club level? Because if the same swing works on a lower club level, then it's obviously not my swing, but the way the game is made.
Thank you all again for the responses.
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Post by lajvol20 on Apr 1, 2020 8:38:22 GMT -5
Thank you for responding John...I am a thumb swinger. I've had the same swing since TGC1. The thing that gets me is I literally just pull back and push forward, concentrating to get it as straight as I can and get P/P swings. I have posted many times and watched streams as well and asked people how they swing so straight? My natural swing produces this curl at the top of the swing, sometimes it even shows up as right angle at the the very tip. Now, I have NO WAY of doing that on PURPOSE, which I would then understand would be trying to use an exploit. There is no way to pull back on the stick and then at the very top in a fraction of a second move your thumb in such a way you make it curl to the left or the right. That's what gets me I guess. I thought we were going after the guys that were swinging side ways or swinging from like 8 to 2 on the stick. Here is the crazy part to me also...if guys were streaming and we saw straight lines, they were "straight shooters." Now, we have to hit it as straight as possible or you're flagged. It seems like the cheaters have ruined this game for some of us. I wish I could sit in anyone's living room, just pick up any PS4 controller and show you how I just swing from top to bottom. Anyway, I'm done...I will try my best to adjust. Thank you to everyone who has responded. Maybe societies is the best way to have fun going forward. If we would have just kicked out anyone who was ACTUALLY cheating from the start, we wouldn't be here right now. Is it easier to keep the swing in the cone on a lower club level? Because if the same swing works on a lower club level, then it's obviously not my swing, but the way the game is made. Thank you all again for the responses. I'm in the same boat. I'm on Euro and this only affects PGA (for now), but if they roll it out across the tours, I'll fail API check every week. I was flagged last week when they rolled it out, but since I'm not PGA I don't get pulled. The feedback I got is that more than half my shots finish outside the cone. That's very true, sometimes slightly, sometimes with a curl, sometimes with a sharp angle, never on purpose, and certainly not an advantage to have to guess how unstraight I'm going to swing and plan for it. I also am jealous when I watch streams and see people with perfectly (or near perfectly) straight lines every time, and wonder how they do it. I've tried holding the controller different ways to "fix" it, but no dice so far.
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Post by theviciousvicar on Apr 1, 2020 10:59:21 GMT -5
Got myself pulled from the PGA this week, very disappointed that my swing shows I,m somehow exploiting the game without realising it.
I,ve always swung the same way with the controller at 45d, it does however most often than not go left of centre but thought that would be ok, not straight but 80p of the time, so yeah I guess it does look as if I,m swinging 5 to 11, so now I,ve got to work out how to swing straighter.
Not complaining guess I,m just unlucky my swing looked iffy on api, did,nt even give it a thought that swinging with the controller at an angle could result in a game exploit
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Post by unclevirt on Apr 1, 2020 12:25:01 GMT -5
I'm at a loss guys...I've always been against cheating, but I'm not the problem. I pull it back and push forward... You could push it a little out of the cone or quite a bit out side and the ball landed in the same spot. If it's just outside the cone as opposed to let's say...at 1:30...it will land in a different spot. Those two shots don't land in the same spot.
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