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Post by gavlaar124 on Feb 12, 2020 6:23:34 GMT -5
Has Bob left the forum over this?!!!
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Post by staypuft39 on Feb 12, 2020 6:29:49 GMT -5
I never thought I would miss the Santa Claus character but here we are....
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Post by fadgewacker on Feb 12, 2020 6:31:01 GMT -5
I never thought I would miss the Santa Claus character but here we are.... Easter Eggs are in the shops... we can only hop(e).
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Post by fadgewacker on Feb 12, 2020 6:41:01 GMT -5
Has Bob left the forum over this?!!! Looks that way... really disappointing if that holds up.
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Feb 12, 2020 8:49:32 GMT -5
But it seems we've been headed to a safe middle ground compromise in an effort to please a minority voice. ...uuhh, what?!? I swear, feels like I'm living in an alternate universe sometimes...
My $.02 on tournament setups, fwiw, if only to transition back to a substantive discussion on the general topic at hand:
I think it makes sense to try and recreate a type of gameplay that would mimic something you could encounter IRL. For clarity, I'm saying "gameplay" because I think it's more important to focus on how the mechanics of the game react to setup than the label for a specific setting (firm, or soft, or slow, etc.). Tyler's statement about not using vf/vs in a round is spot on with this concept. Just try to imagine watching an irl PGA tour event when the course somehow had very firm fairways yet very soft greens - what, the super accidentally forgot to turn off his greenside irrigation heads overnight and flooded the greens? More improbably, that flooding of the greens was somehow confined only to the putting surfaces, the surrounding fairway cut is still as bouncy as a trampoline? You get where I'm going with that, I hope.
On the flip side of that, I'd suggest that it's very possible to have a course located in an area of extreme dryness, thus vf fairways, which could require additional green watering to keep the more delicate grass on putting surfaces healthy (and/or a soft soil mix), therefore giving it a "medium/moderate" firmness; or maybe a heavy overnight rain soaked once firm fairways to soft, and as a result the sub-air system underneath the greens sucked enough moisture out to get those back to "firm" - those are possible scenarios, IMO. Along that line of thought, conditions should/could match up a mimicked irl scenario - for example, vf/vf/medium speed for a links course, or vf/vf/vf for US Open, etc. I know we are the top tier tour and need to create some challenge, but I've always felt that it's possible to do so in a reasonable, sensible way that's conceivable to have on a real course irl, if that makes sense. That's not to say it's something we've never done or anything like that, just a general concept that I believe is a "best practice" for tournament setup when possible.
I'm sorry to see Dale go, always enjoyed my interactions with him, but I think it was for the best - "for the best" for him personally, in truth, because I think he weathered the storm a lot longer than I would have. He's a good dude and I believe/hope we all appreciate his years of volunteering in this role, probably one of the two or three most demanding and challenging volunteer spots here at TGCT.
Best of luck Tyler, you've got a tough job ahead. While I don't completely agree with your stance on limiting the use of RCR's, and I'm sure we will all likely have disagreements on things you do from time to time, I think it's important for all of us - myself very much included - to remember that just because we don't like, or we disagree, or whatever our frustration/etc. is, it doesn't mean that we are right and the scheduler or someone else is wrong, it's just an opinion. I appreciate you stepping up and taking the reigns, it's something that I would have loved to do a couple of years or so ago when I had more time on my hands, so I hope you're able to have some fun with it and enjoy the ride - thanks!
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