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Post by knickerbocker on Nov 14, 2019 15:09:27 GMT -5
I use the pro set and I really struggle with short shots that fall between a pitch of a lob/sand wedge (60 yards and less) and a full lob wedge with max loft (85 yards).
Ideally I could hit a 3/4 lob wedge, but I find that damn near impossible. Hitting pitches with a PW or 9 iron doesn't have any stopping power.
Any tips would help.
Thanks
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Post by ksmith851 on Nov 14, 2019 15:15:22 GMT -5
I agree, this is the worst distance to be in. Practice with the loft box on the driving range. Lob wedge fully lofted will probably take 10+ yards off the shot. But try it to get an exact number, because I use masters clubs and there are differences.
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Post by Riotous on Nov 14, 2019 16:31:59 GMT -5
The trick is not to leave yourself in that zone, leave yourself around a full lob wedge instead. It’s far easier to hit straight and much more predictable when working in wind or on slopes
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Post by nevadaballin on Nov 14, 2019 18:37:33 GMT -5
I use the pro set and I really struggle with short shots that fall between a pitch of a lob/sand wedge (60 yards and less) and a full lob wedge with max loft (85 yards).
Ideally I could hit a 3/4 lob wedge, but I find that damn near impossible. Hitting pitches with a PW or 9 iron doesn't have any stopping power.
Any tips would help.
Thanks
Create a practice hole in the designer. It doesn't need to be pretty, no one is ever going to see it but you because that's where you will practice from. You can place the ball anywhere and then use the "rewind shot" feature here like a mulligan. Like KSmith said, practice using the shot modifier and use the letters from Draw or Fade on the side of the box as a setting guide for remembering the distances you'll get with your club of choice from that distance. Place the ball on all surfaces to practice from bunker, heavy rough, light rough, fairway. It won't take you too long to get it figured out in a manner that is comfortable for you. From there, you'll just need to consistently execute in-game (easy for me to say, that's always the hard part - consistency lol) This is how I was able to ditch the LW altogether and use the SW for these shots instead. I used the opened slot to add a 2 Hybrid. Anything i could have done with a Lob Wedge i can now do with the Sand Wedge and that bought me the added hybrid. Hope that helps a bit and good luck.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 21:13:02 GMT -5
I agree, this is the worst distance to be in. Practice with the loft box on the driving range. Lob wedge fully lofted will probably take 10+ yards off the shot. But try it to get an exact number, because I use masters clubs and there are differences. I second this comment. Don't mindlessly bomb the driver all the time. Work backwards from the hole to find the proper club off of the tee to leave yourself a full shot if you know you struggle with 60-85 yard shots.
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Post by knickerbocker on Nov 15, 2019 8:26:03 GMT -5
I agree, this is the worst distance to be in. Practice with the loft box on the driving range. Lob wedge fully lofted will probably take 10+ yards off the shot. But try it to get an exact number, because I use masters clubs and there are differences. I second this comment. Don't mindlessly bomb the driver all the time. Work backwards from the hole to find the proper club off of the tee to leave yourself a full shot if you know you struggle with 60-85 yard shots. That is what I am doing today and it has allowed me to shoot some better scores.
I was just wondering if I was missing something.
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Post by Generic_Casual on Nov 18, 2019 0:13:29 GMT -5
I agree, this is the worst distance to be in. Practice with the loft box on the driving range. Lob wedge fully lofted will probably take 10+ yards off the shot. But try it to get an exact number, because I use masters clubs and there are differences. I second this comment. Don't mindlessly bomb the driver all the time. Work backwards from the hole to find the proper club off of the tee to leave yourself a full shot if you know you struggle with 60-85 yard shots. How dare you approach this like real golf!
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Nov 19, 2019 14:37:15 GMT -5
Despite all the practice you can make (and the advice about the idea to create a hole to practice is anyway a great one, really. For various reasons and purposes, I mean), it will be always uneasy to replicate this kind of shots (using 75/85/90% of power etc) very exactly when you will be under pressure playing a round for a tournament.
So I agree with the other advices, definitely. Study every hole of a course. Check the map with distances and elevation changes. And if you can, practice it until you learn what is the best possible tee shot to have a full shot on the approaches..especially on par 5s and all those holes in which a different, more aggressive strategy is available.
Also, as a secondary thought, consider that with the poor spin and some very tucked, tricky pin we have often in this game, every pitch shot in which a club higher than a pitching wedge is needed, very often it will result in a much more difficult shot than the one you could have with a full shot with every wedge.
Just for example, what I try to do to avoid this issue, is to be aggressive on my tee shots only if I'm sure to have, at worst, a pitch shot with a sand wedge, for my approach. Otherwise, or if I'm in doubt, I prefer to stay at a distance good for a full lob or gap wedge. Often I prefer this option also, if the alternative could be a long flop shot (one of the shots I try to avoid the most in every way).
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Post by paddyjk19 on Nov 19, 2019 16:20:47 GMT -5
Basically, if you play 4 wedges PW, GW, SW, LW (you should always play 4 wedges and no hybrids by the way, they aren’t good out of rough) then the only awkward gap is between 42 yards (PW flop) and 57 (LW pitch). You have every other yardage between 1 and 90 yards covered with very small tweaks to the loft box.
I don’t buy into leaving a full lob wedge, get as close to the pin as possible in the fairway of course unless it’s a really tight front pin where full LW gives you stopping power. Closer is better.
I just do the loft box by feel but you can obviously practice it like aforementioned on a practice hole.
Tempo is most important as is ditching woods and hybrids.
Here’s the best bag in my opinion;
Driver 2 wood 1 iron 3 iron 5-9 iron PW GW SW LW
irons go out of rough better, the 1 iron is literally the best.
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Post by Generic_Casual on Nov 19, 2019 21:39:58 GMT -5
Basically, if you play 4 wedges PW, GW, SW, LW (you should always play 4 wedges and no hybrids by the way, they aren’t good out of rough) then the only awkward gap is between 42 yards (PW flop) and 57 (LW pitch). You have every other yardage between 1 and 90 yards covered with very small tweaks to the loft box. I don’t buy into leaving a full lob wedge, get as close to the pin as possible in the fairway of course unless it’s a really tight front pin where full LW gives you stopping power. Closer is better. I just do the loft box by feel but you can obviously practice it like aforementioned on a practice hole. Tempo is most important as is ditching woods and hybrids. Here’s the best bag in my opinion; Driver 2 wood 1 iron 3 iron 5-9 iron PW GW SW LW irons go out of rough better, the 1 iron is literally the best. I don't like ANY of this... I have ZERO use for a GW. You should ALWAYS try and leave yourself a shot that YOU are comfortable with. Closer to the green isn't always the best play. Those finesse shots come with practice/rounds played. We can agree to disagree.
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Post by paddyjk19 on Nov 20, 2019 5:30:29 GMT -5
I’d agree about the GW IF I was able to use the loft box to extremes BUT I can’t because my controller is too sensitive so I miss the line and consequently the green from 120 which is a cardinal sin in the scoring zone. I’m totally with you that if you’re a straight shooter then drop the GW and gap your long irons tighter.
If however you are an OK masters club user or squiqqly shooter, make sure you don’t have any gaps under 150 yards, this is where you will score. Above 200 yards is not your scoring zone, hit the green not the pin!
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Post by Generic_Casual on Nov 20, 2019 5:49:04 GMT -5
You guys and your infatuation with hitting it "straight"! Lol! I miss the line on every damn swing! I also don't use an iron above a 3!
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Post by Riotous on Nov 20, 2019 7:59:13 GMT -5
Know your roll out, if you’re 10 ft right that’s only a 10ft putt. Check the green to see if there’s a side of the pin you DONT want to finish on and finally try to get your head around which shots are affected by wind and side slope
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Post by nevadaballin on Nov 23, 2019 13:10:15 GMT -5
Basically, if you play 4 wedges PW, GW, SW, LW (you should always play 4 wedges and no hybrids by the way, they aren’t good out of rough) then the only awkward gap is between 42 yards (PW flop) and 57 (LW pitch). You have every other yardage between 1 and 90 yards covered with very small tweaks to the loft box. I don’t buy into leaving a full lob wedge, get as close to the pin as possible in the fairway of course unless it’s a really tight front pin where full LW gives you stopping power. Closer is better. I just do the loft box by feel but you can obviously practice it like aforementioned on a practice hole. Tempo is most important as is ditching woods and hybrids. Here’s the best bag in my opinion; Driver 2 wood 1 iron 3 iron 5-9 iron PW GW SW LW irons go out of rough better, the 1 iron is literally the best. I don't like ANY of this... I have ZERO use for a GW. You should ALWAYS try and leave yourself a shot that YOU are comfortable with. Closer to the green isn't always the best play. Those finesse shots come with practice/rounds played. We can agree to disagree. Golf is great because of this reason. What's comfortable for one person may be hell for another I have no use for a LW. Any shot I can do with it I can also pull off with a SW. But it took some practice to make it that way between my ears. In turn, that made the LW an expendable club for me and get a longer hybrid in the bag for those 220+ par 3's that have become popular lately.
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Post by illinoisgator on Nov 27, 2019 15:53:55 GMT -5
Basically, if you play 4 wedges PW, GW, SW, LW (you should always play 4 wedges and no hybrids by the way, they aren’t good out of rough) then the only awkward gap is between 42 yards (PW flop) and 57 (LW pitch). You have every other yardage between 1 and 90 yards covered with very small tweaks to the loft box. I don’t buy into leaving a full lob wedge, get as close to the pin as possible in the fairway of course unless it’s a really tight front pin where full LW gives you stopping power. Closer is better. I just do the loft box by feel but you can obviously practice it like aforementioned on a practice hole. Tempo is most important as is ditching woods and hybrids. Here’s the best bag in my opinion; Driver 2 wood 1 iron 3 iron 5-9 iron PW GW SW LW irons go out of rough better, the 1 iron is literally the best. This is exactly my philosophy and bag set up. I’ve gotten really solid with my pitch and flops so I try to get as close as possible with the best angle to the pin.
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