grey3eard
Weekend Golfer
I am a Grandad in his early fifties who enjoys playing video game golf!
Posts: 98
TGCT Name: Mark Hale
Tour: Beer League
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Post by grey3eard on Oct 1, 2019 15:11:16 GMT -5
90 minutes though. Goodness. You sure you didn't accidentally fall asleep during the round? Hahahaha......
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Post by boffo on Oct 2, 2019 14:53:16 GMT -5
Really starting to wonder how I managed to qualify for Web using master clubs last year while now I can only manage to be average while using beginner clubs. Fortunately there's no pressure of demotion down here so I can slowly work on rediscovering some of those finer parts of my game that I once possessed. Round 3 was my usual solid, but totally unspectacular round with a -7.
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Post by cseanny on Oct 2, 2019 19:32:46 GMT -5
boffo For what it's worth, outside of BCT I play with Master Clubs, and imho, beginner clubs, with their lack of trajectory, spin, and distance, make the game more difficult (based on personal experience and score history versus each club set). Someone struggling with tempo/cone would probably disagree, but imo, those people would still be scoring better with Pro Clubs. Beginner clubs force you to manipulate yardages beyond imagination to even have a "chance" to get close to some pin locations. As for my R3, I felt the pins and yardages were much more accessible this round which definitely led to much better scoring! I imagine as a whole, better scores for this round across the board. Of course, it helps that I didn't get "ghosted" either!!! I've practiced one round of the F9 of R4 so far and let me tell you, I find it to be the most challenging 9 holes yet. I hope the back 9 has some scoring potential.
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Post by Ray on Oct 2, 2019 20:42:34 GMT -5
Does anyone even use ghosts with full aids on??? Have you noticed people’s scores on PS have improved dramatically since you’ve started playing BCT which leads you to the conclusion that people are ‘ghosting’ your rounds? What would be the point when they can’t see how you set the shot up? Seems an preposterous hypothesis to me.
Curious, Why don’t you try just playing the course for the first time in the tournament like most of the rest of us do and see how you go that way? Even just once?
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Post by Ray on Oct 2, 2019 20:49:33 GMT -5
Really starting to wonder how I managed to qualify for Web using master clubs last year while now I can only manage to be average while using beginner clubs. Fortunately there's no pressure of demotion down here so I can slowly work on rediscovering some of those finer parts of my game that I once possessed. Round 3 was my usual solid, but totally unspectacular round with a -7. Rollout and spin are a lot different with Beginner clubs. It’s easy to hit it well, less easy to predict an outcome with the lack of spin. The short game takes a bit to learn as well. I don’t chart stuff but I’m starting to find a feel with flops and chips like I never did with Masters. Keep on plugging away 👍
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Post by cseanny on Oct 2, 2019 21:15:14 GMT -5
Ray I agree. That's a nonsensical and preposterous hypothesis. Out of curiosity, who's the person you talked to about BCT people using ghost with full aids on? As far as playing a tournament w/out practicing, no can do. As you know, I'm referred to as "Chart Guy", as such, charting out loft, spin, different holes, greens, lies, etc. It's what gives me the most enjoyment. When the game 1st came out, I probably played HB official Sawgrass exclusively (literally no other courses during this time) around 60 or 70x in a row. Anyone remember the video game, Sega Rally Championship 1995? I probably spent 4 weeks straight, playing the same car and track, in an attempt to best my previous track record by .001 seconds. I'm a weeeee bit OCD. It is what it is.
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Post by tottenhamordie on Oct 3, 2019 0:39:52 GMT -5
"know as the chart guy", never heard of you before week 1 of this season lmao.
as for the rounds, cant believe i played as good in R2, as i did in the others with the high winds. anyone else notice how R3 was "low wind", but it was 8mph the entire time, except for 2 holes where it suddenly dropped to 2mph. conveniently on 2 holes where an 8mph tail wid would have been nice, instead its a measly 2mph tailwind. i found myself on auto pilot for 3 rounds, every shot to the same spot, half the pin locations maybe 5 yards from the previous round location. and the wind seemed to be the same every round, minus the ridiculous 17mph R2. i am still happy with this week, all things considered. didnt shoot a robotic score but still managed consistency through all 4 rounds so i am happy.
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Post by Ray on Oct 3, 2019 1:15:07 GMT -5
I was happy with my -9 round 2, felt I got a few back I’d lost on the field in round 1. I don’t hate the course, but I suspect some of the CC-lower guys will.
I thought you were implying that not being ghosted meant other people couldn’t use your ghost? My bad.
Everyone charts to some extent. I don’t use a spreadsheet or write anything down, but the more I play the more I work out what the wind (and lie angle etc) does to the ball and make mental notes.
If we were playing for money I’d practice more and maybe look at the courses, but I like the way I go about it and that most of the guys do it the same way, and that I’m ok at it. You seem to like your way and are clearly miles ahead for doing it, so all good here. Would just be interested to see how you went with all the data you have on a first look at a course. Maybe we’ll talk you into it one day for laughs.
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Post by boffo on Oct 3, 2019 9:46:46 GMT -5
I may be screwed then. I've never been one for doing things like practicing or taking my time while playing. Back in the TGC1 days most of my "practice" was done while I was rangering but that was when we only had one club type. Now all ranger rounds I play are either with master or pro clubs so my 4 tour rounds each week will be the only time I use beginner clubs. Fortunately I'm just here to be participating in the tours on some level and have fun/relax while doing it. If I start stressing out about how I'm going to do then it probably won't take long before I go back into hiding again.
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Post by boffo on Oct 3, 2019 11:07:36 GMT -5
Another meh round to close out the week. Started the 1st with a chip-in birdie which left me optimistic for what was to come. Then, as is so often the case for me when I pick up a stroke I probably shouldn't have got I turned around and gave it right back on the next hole. Things settled down too much after that and I only managed to get as good as -4 by the time all was said and done. A disappointing follow up to my first week as it felt like a step or two back and won't be a threat to anybody.
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grey3eard
Weekend Golfer
I am a Grandad in his early fifties who enjoys playing video game golf!
Posts: 98
TGCT Name: Mark Hale
Tour: Beer League
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Post by grey3eard on Oct 3, 2019 15:44:21 GMT -5
An average Round 3 for me....with the low wind I gave myself plenty of birdie chances but half of them were on the wrong side of the hole, I crapped myself with those very fast downhill lies and just couldn't line them up. Finished -7 with only one bogey but it could have been about 3 to 4 shots better. Still got hopes for my first top 10 finish.
Managed to play Round 4 as well this evening but I will report on that this time tomorrow in keeping with scores being published.
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Post by cseanny on Oct 3, 2019 17:04:49 GMT -5
Ray Yeah, I was talking about the ghost-breaks and unpredictable greens. Some others already mentioned the same on the 1st page too. I see you spend time in TST and the USE Society, which are both geared at realism. I'm surprised you don't take notes yourself!!!? IRL, the caddies and player always arrive early to practice, getting correct yardages, sight-lines, green reads, etc. Seems like that would align very well with TST/USE. If you're curious how I shoot w/out notes, I might post my 1st practice round of next weeks course. Typically I use unplayable's so I get more hits, but I'll refrain from that. As for this tournament, R3 was by far my best play. R4 however, was my 2nd worst ^. Since most of us seem to have a gentleman's agreement not to post our scores too early, that should be ok. People can try to decipher what they will.
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Post by Ray on Oct 3, 2019 20:35:30 GMT -5
Round 3 drops on the scoreboard in a couple of hours, don’t think anyone will mind me mentioning my score.
Had -9 again for round 3, same as round 2. Felt like both rounds were around what the top guys will be shooting, but my terrible first round -5 left me too far back to contend for my cherished top 5 spot. Was about 35th after R1, 20th after R2. Hoping for a top 10 when all is said and done.
Nice to see some PC folks near the top of the leaderboard for a change 👍
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Post by tottenhamordie on Oct 3, 2019 23:12:13 GMT -5
Ray Yeah, I was talking about the ghost-breaks and unpredictable greens. Some others already mentioned the same on the 1st page too. I see you spend time in TST and the USE Society, which are both geared at realism. I'm surprised you don't take notes yourself!!!? IRL, the caddies and player always arrive early to practice, getting correct yardages, sight-lines, green reads, etc. Seems like that would align very well with TST/USE. If you're curious how I shoot w/out notes, I might post my 1st practice round of next weeks course. Typically I use unplayable's so I get more hits, but I'll refrain from that. As for this tournament, R3 was by far my best play. R4 however, was my 2nd worst ^. Since most of us seem to have a gentleman's agreement not to post our scores too early, that should be ok. People can try to decipher what they will.
ya the real players and caddies practice, the only difference is they arrive on tuesday, play 2 or 3 rounds just to feel out yardages and the firmness of the surface. pretty sure they dont sit there and hit 11 shots from the same lie aka unplayables. they also dont know the exact pin locations, so they arent writing down the exact yards to the pin, with exact wind for that day, since the wind isnt the same on any 2 days. do whatever is fun for you, but as you have said, you "came here to compete", but they way you robotically play the game puts you miles ahead of anyone else. most are playing one round to feel out the course, and then playing all 4 rounds at once. we arent playing for money, fame, or anything of significance here. and the way you have talked about your methods just comes off as super try hard in the BCT, the lowest division of tour on this site lmao. i also still feel the arrogance oozing out of every post you make, but hey, im trying to be better on this forum so i wont go there. oops already did...
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Post by cseanny on Oct 4, 2019 0:50:22 GMT -5
The guy you have a problem with is yourself tottenhamordie . It has nothing to do with me. Arrogance? This is coming from the guy always bragging to be in top 3 of D.A.M. events, and using that same top 3 as a tool to promulgate their own forum relevance. Um, POT. KETTLE. My R4 notes take up 1/3 page on a single side of lined paper (I can fit 3 courses on 1 side of paper), which are numbered #1 through #9, and then #10 through #18. #10 is on the same line as #1, #11 on the same line as #2, so on and so forth. It literally takes 5seconds to jot down a note. Anyone can do it.Here are my R4 notes: 1. Approach -5y, add +1 loft. 10. Aim between sand/edge. 36y hook 3i. 2. -8y 11. 5i. D. 3. I left blank 'cause it's easy hole. 12. I left blank. 4. Center fairway. -2y flop. 13. -4 to -5y. 5. Zero wind, 3i w/ 24y slice. 14. 30y hook. 6. Aim way right. 8y aim right (slope) 15. Aim bunker. Right center. 7. Approach w/ 5y slice. -1.5y of actual. 16. Aim left fairway. -2 to -3y. 8. Drive right center. 5i full loft. 17. Aim center. -3y. 9. Drive right center. 18. Aim right center. -4y. And everything you've said about pro players and caddies is comically and grossly mistaken. You're making it sound like my 5second note, on a tiny sliver of a space of paper, and that my preparation is far beyond what a real life golfer prepares for. Seriously man? Tell me your joking? !! How do the pro's actually prepare? Do a quick search with "practice like a golf pro" and you'll see video after video of professionals hitting shot after shot, from particular holes on the course, from the range, from the bunker, never ending flop shots (Phil Mickelson comes to mind) etc. What kind of notes do players and their caddies prepare? streamable.com/10qyx and streamable.com/2qd10 and streamable.com/deh88 and streamable.com/482kq and here is the full video
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