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Post by fadgewacker on Oct 20, 2019 15:34:11 GMT -5
Do your swing lines go to the top of the feedback circle? Every single shot off of the green goes all the way back and forth. Maybe this is where my ignorance is on all of this, because it was not explained, but when I putt, it does not go all the way to the bottom and top, should it? I'm not sure how you would have any feel if you do that but, again, maybe this is the answer I have been looking for on this issue. If that is the case, then I am much happier and will work to correct that, if not, my frustration remains. The putting thing is a non thing. That’s normal - this sounds very odd indeed to me regards your full swing being pulled with multiple controllers. Could well be an counterfeit one, as GW says. Have you had any conversations with admin about this at all? If so, what was their feedback? Assume you have a standard controller? Not an “officially endorsed” one... a genuine controller, standard issue. Can you describe the way you swing the stick?
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csfromks
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Post by csfromks on Oct 21, 2019 8:44:04 GMT -5
You need to ask admin if you are getting pulled for putting or swing. Also, be careful where you buy your controllers. Lots of phony ones that look identical from packaging and all. It's from the swing, I just didn't know how they dealt with the putting line. And the controller was bought from Target. I guess don't buy controllers from Target to play on the tours
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Post by csfromks on Oct 21, 2019 9:00:14 GMT -5
Every single shot off of the green goes all the way back and forth. Maybe this is where my ignorance is on all of this, because it was not explained, but when I putt, it does not go all the way to the bottom and top, should it? I'm not sure how you would have any feel if you do that but, again, maybe this is the answer I have been looking for on this issue. If that is the case, then I am much happier and will work to correct that, if not, my frustration remains. The putting thing is a non thing. That’s normal - this sounds very odd indeed to me regards your full swing being pulled with multiple controllers. Could well be an counterfeit one, as GW says. Have you had any conversations with admin about this at all? If so, what was their feedback? Assume you have a standard controller? Not an “officially endorsed” one... a genuine controller, standard issue. What platform are you playing on? Can you describe the way you swing the stick? The swing line is too straight, too often. I've been in contact with admins on the previous issue and this one. Controller was bought from Target. It's a normal PlayStation controller, the see-through version, that was on sale down from the normal $59.99. I use right thumb on right stick, pull back/push forward using bottom of stick. I have another controller that I can use. My dog got a hold of it though and the sticks have been chewed on a bit and they aren't in great shape. Which is why I went out and got a new controller, but I guess I will have to go back to the old one if I want to continue here. I would never go out and buy a 3rd party controller, waste of $$ if you play on console, imo The hard pill for me to swallow is this. If a standard PS controller can't pass the test, or is a crap shoot when buying a new one to know if it will pass, what is a player supposed to do? And with the growth of this game and this website, I would imagine there is bound to be more and more of these issues with a larger portion of players. Oh well. Onward and upward I guess.
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Post by fadgewacker on Oct 21, 2019 9:21:07 GMT -5
That's a pain...
FWIW - I've never had an issue with any controller that I've bought from Amazon, but maybe I'm lucky.
Another option is to buy some replacement thumbsticks for your other DS4. It's really easy to replace them.
Hopefully you get sorted out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 1:21:44 GMT -5
*cough cough* 5x on regular tours in a season = ban for the season?!
Surely after that many times one is not trying to fix the issue/problem, but likely trying to game the system?!
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Post by Generic_Casual on Oct 23, 2019 1:31:29 GMT -5
We've had a 5-timer? Really?! Yikes!
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Post by fadgewacker on Oct 23, 2019 1:37:00 GMT -5
Not this season. We have do have a 4 timer in 2020 ( 2 in PGA + 2 in TST).
There are 2 active all time 5 timers on PGA though. They’re second only to the great Liam Griffiths in the hall of fame.
Excitingly, we actually have 4 players all on 2 DQ’s in PGA (including the world #1) so the race to 3 and major and WGR exclusion is ON!!
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Post by paddyjk19 on Oct 23, 2019 7:00:29 GMT -5
I feel like a broken record on this but when are we going to implement this across all 3 pro tours?
If cheating / pushing the line is occurring on the PGA it's obviously happening on the other tours too.
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Post by fadgewacker on Oct 23, 2019 7:22:37 GMT -5
I feel like a broken record on this but when are we going to implement this across all 3 pro tours? If cheating / pushing the line is occurring on the PGA it's obviously happening on the other tours too. This is across all tours... Unless I'm mistaken. The only tour where there is any difference is TST.
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Post by fadgewacker on Oct 23, 2019 7:30:54 GMT -5
They do, yes.
Edit 1: This was an emphasis of mine in season 4 (season 3 here for TST) moving forward.
Edit 2: It was implemented for season 5 of TGCTours (season 4 of TST)... last year. Continues forward I assume into the current season.
I'm curious to how many people get pulled on average from TST. My semi-logical brain would say that it wouldn't be anywhere near the PGA because:
1. Not as many play the TST rounds 2. Those that feel they need the advantages of a straight swing, probably don't have the patience to play TST where a straight swing means far less than on the PGA.
To date: 2020 TST average is 1.3 per week. 2020 PGA Average is 2.4 per week
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Post by paddyjk19 on Oct 23, 2019 8:39:50 GMT -5
I feel like a broken record on this but when are we going to implement this across all 3 pro tours? If cheating / pushing the line is occurring on the PGA it's obviously happening on the other tours too. This is across all tours... Unless I'm mistaken. The only tour where there is any difference is TST. Am I not right in thinking that you only get banned from majors and PGA events? That doesn’t really penalise lower your players
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Post by fadgewacker on Oct 23, 2019 9:15:00 GMT -5
This is across all tours... Unless I'm mistaken. The only tour where there is any difference is TST. Am I not right in thinking that you only get banned from majors and PGA events? That doesn’t really penalise lower your players Also promo events and they chance to qualify for a major, but I get what you're saying, and I agree that the current setup doesn't do much to discourage skullduggery much below Euro.
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Oct 23, 2019 17:52:22 GMT -5
But, looking at least at the PGA tour, you guys can see any difference? I ask cause i have not the time to follow exactly what happens. Your impression is that this thing is working well?
I agree also with the fact that the rules are not so penalizing for the lower flights cheaters, but this is a good first step, anyway. To complete it, at this point I would simply to add a 3 months ban after every score pulled after the 3rd. It would be a good problem for those who wants to fight for WGR and every standings.
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Post by fadgewacker on Oct 24, 2019 0:52:18 GMT -5
But, looking at least at the PGA tour, you guys can see any difference? I ask cause i have not the time to follow exactly what happens. Your impression is that this thing is working well? I agree also with the fact that the rules are not so penalizing for the lower flights cheaters, but this is a good first step, anyway. To complete it, at this point I would simply to add a 3 months ban after every score pulled after the 3rd. It would be a good problem for those who wants to fight for WGR and every standings. I’m not really seeing any evidence that it’s currently working as a deterrent. Nobody has actually reached 3 pulls yet though. The numbers getting pulled in TST have dropped, but the sample size is too small to recognise a trend, plus there are more repeat offenders on PGA
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Oct 24, 2019 1:50:51 GMT -5
Thank you for the precise answer You're right..but is also true that 7 weeks is still a very little sample. After all..the majority of those guys are used to pass the API quite often, demonstrating that they knows how to cheat properly. I think that to see some kind of result (or to have some trustable data, anyway) we should wait at least 12/15 tournaments. Is also very important what you and some other guys are doing in the PGA threads.. With no exaggerations and always with a laugh, but they must to know that WE KNOW. Soon or later who knows..maybe they will be tired to be considered in fact as clowns
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