dystemper
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Post by dystemper on Aug 26, 2019 9:10:24 GMT -5
I have read some talk about FLICKING, but I'm not understanding why this is illegal? First, if I'm understanding this, wouldn't this result in very fast down swings?
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Post by ohheycat on Aug 26, 2019 9:28:09 GMT -5
In before the lock
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Flicking
Aug 26, 2019 9:41:07 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by ezzinomilonga on Aug 26, 2019 9:41:07 GMT -5
I have read some talk about FLICKING, but I'm not understanding why this is illegal? First, if I'm understanding this, wouldn't this result in very fast down swings? Basically (and roughly, from what I can understand, but I'm sure someone else could explain it better than me), this technique allows a player to play without no need to execute a straight swing cause, with a minimal movement on backswing, then the ball will go always straight. No matters how much your downswing can be crooked. With a bit of practice, you can play every approach being sure that your ball will be always straight. And if you consider that the challenge should be not only study the right shot, but even execute it properly..you can easily understand how much this is unfair. What a joke is. If you practice enough and if you are smart enough, you can do this without that API can find something strange or wrong, sadly. The fact that this is a cancer, for this game, is proved by the results you can see on PGA. Especially about majors and FedEx best players. The players who plays the game properly at that level, are white flies, actually. And probably the short flickers are a lot even at the lowest levels. This is the situation.
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Post by mrohde4 on Aug 26, 2019 9:44:17 GMT -5
I have read some talk about FLICKING, but I'm not understanding why this is illegal? First, if I'm understanding this, wouldn't this result in very fast down swings? Flicking/short-swinging is not illegal, never has been. The controversy surrounding flicking stems from the fact that a short downswing line produces data that increases a player's likelihood of failing the API. The admins warned players to "short-swing at your own risk" several months ago, and several known flickers' tournament scores failed the API Fair Play Policy during the season due to this 'wrinkle' in the game. The data points get clumped in the same areas, which trigger the API. Several top players use this method, and it's a controversial method because sometimes their scores are removed while their 'passing' data produces consistent strong results. Flicking is advantageous because it virtually eliminates accuracy dispersion of the ball flight. The data produced by a flick swing is more tightly condensed than the average full-line downswing, therefore short swings are consistently dead straight. Even if the visible line of a short swing is outside the blue-channel, the ball flies straight with minimal accuracy penalty. The result is precision golf without a precise swing. To me, the most troubling aspect is that short-swinging can be accomplished by modding a controller using a number of simple household items. It's been acknowledged as a flaw in the game's design, but the admins have their hands tied in enforcement as long as the data passes the API fair play policy. Should be mentioned that players using this method claim that flicking is how they've "always played," therefore the method should be allowed if data passes the API. Currently, there is no penalty for an API disqualification outside of having your scores removed, therefore my guess is players feel the reward is worth the heightened chances of disqualification. *** Cue the dead horse memes, if they haven't already started while I've written this response.***
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dystemper
Weekend Golfer
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TGCT Name: Charles Chapman
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Post by dystemper on Aug 26, 2019 9:54:10 GMT -5
Ok, I see what your saying. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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Post by mrohde4 on Aug 26, 2019 10:06:52 GMT -5
Ok, I see what your saying. Thanks for clearing that up for me. This one-minute video should demonstrate the accuracy advantage with the short-swing. Three six iron swings. Compare the swing feedback line with the ball flight. The third swing at :50 is pretty telling.
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dystemper
Weekend Golfer
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TGCT Name: Charles Chapman
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Post by dystemper on Aug 26, 2019 11:31:47 GMT -5
Thanks for posting the video. When I first heard of flicking, I thought it was producing a straight line. I definitely see what you mean
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Post by gdog on Aug 26, 2019 12:32:46 GMT -5
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Post by LKeet6 on Aug 26, 2019 12:37:41 GMT -5
Ah, so you've "always" played the game blatantly as it's not supposed to be played, thus blatantly giving you an advantage, that's super unrealistic. Well, I feel MUCH better now...smh...
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Aug 26, 2019 12:39:05 GMT -5
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Post by Violinguy69 on Aug 26, 2019 12:53:49 GMT -5
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Flicking
Aug 26, 2019 20:38:49 GMT -5
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Post by mrohde4 on Aug 26, 2019 20:38:49 GMT -5
Double team GIF shut it down really quick. ππππ
Nice work fellas.
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Post by grinder12000 on Aug 26, 2019 22:04:50 GMT -5
Letβs remember all flicks are not the same. Iβm actually straighter NOT flicking but I also have 10% normal shots that are way way way right into no mans land I hit the ball straighter NOT flicking but less accurate. But my flicks look nothing like the video, The top yanks to 2:00 the last 20% so I aim left
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Post by kickingguru on Aug 27, 2019 11:05:08 GMT -5
Keep in mind also, this is primarily a PS4 issue as it is difficult to do consistently on the xbox/pc.
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Post by sandsaver01 on Aug 27, 2019 11:29:45 GMT -5
Keep in mind also, this is primarily a PS4 issue as it is difficult to do consistently on the xbox/pc. It also is not that easy on PS4. Out of curiosity I tried "flicking" on the driving range and I could not do it with any consistency - the swing would still be too long and hit the top, or it was not long enough to actually become a downswing. I was at it for a good 30 min, and hit what looked like a few good flick shots, and they do go straight. However, I might be a an uncoordinated febe who just cannot master the technique, but I will stick to my regular crappy swing that keeps me firmly in CC-D.
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