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Post by MagneticPanda31 on May 14, 2019 3:08:08 GMT -5
The only problem with this is Xbox masters are so much harder than Ps4 masters, Thats why the majority went to pro clubs in the first place, To try and compete with them.
This does make it fairer to move up the levels , but we still can't compete with the Ps4 useres.
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Post by ezzinomilonga on May 14, 2019 4:49:00 GMT -5
The only problem with this is Xbox masters are so much harder than Ps4 masters, Thats why the majority went to pro clubs in the first place, To try and compete with them. This does make it fairer to move up the levels , but we still can't compete with the Ps4 useres. Just some days ago i had the chance to try this game on a ps4 (i play usually with the ps4 controller,but on my pc) and is almost incredible how different things are. Playing with master clubs on ps4 is in facts easier that play with pro clubs on pc. I can't imagine how hard can be to play this game with the xbox controller. Sadly,there's no a way to solve this problem,now,without to separate every club users and every console users,but this would be to made a step to the death of this community as we knows it. What i know and i learned after almost two months spended into this community,is that all the admins and almost everyone here has the strong desire to see this community grows up strong and sane...and to keep the competition always fair and enjoyable for all of us. So i have a full faith that every choice will be made for the best of all the community. Here is not about to penalize someone, the problem here is not about some choice. Is about something broken or bugged with a real solution that's above a simple decision of common sense. We need some patience. And if HB and 2K will not solve this,i'm sure we will. In a way or in another one. Maybe even with some hard choice,but we will. But now,we can only to wait and to fix what is fixable,with some bend-aid decision like this and patience and common sense,i think. |
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Post by Giraffe72 on May 14, 2019 6:34:53 GMT -5
The only problem with this is Xbox masters are so much harder than Ps4 masters, Thats why the majority went to pro clubs in the first place, To try and compete with them. This does make it fairer to move up the levels , but we still can't compete with the Ps4 useres. Put it this way, I'd rather be competing against a Masters clubs player on PS4 than a Pro clubs player on ANY platform. It's all relative, there's Xbox players on the Pro Tours doing pretty well. The game is what it is, all we can do is the best we can with it. |
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Post by gatorman on May 14, 2019 7:08:10 GMT -5
The only problem with this is Xbox masters are so much harder than Ps4 masters, Thats why the majority went to pro clubs in the first place, To try and compete with them. This does make it fairer to move up the levels , but we still can't compete with the Ps4 useres. Just some days ago i had the chance to try this game on a ps4 (i play usually with the ps4 controller,but on my pc) and is almost incredible how different things are. Playing with master clubs on ps4 is in facts easier that play with pro clubs on pc. I can't imagine how hard can be to play this game with the xbox controller. Sadly,there's no a way to solve this problem,now,without to separate every club users and every console users,but this would be to made a step to the death of this community as we knows it. What i know and i learned after almost two months spended into this community,is that all the admins and almost everyone here has the strong desire to see this community grows up strong and sane...and to keep the competition always fair and enjoyable for all of us. So i have a full faith that every choice will be made for the best of all the community. Here is not about to penalize someone, the problem here is not about some choice. Is about something broken or bugged with a real solution that's above a simple decision of common sense. We need some patience. And if HB and 2K will not solve this,i'm sure we will. In a way or in another one. Maybe even with some hard choice,but we will. But now,we can only to wait and to fix what is fixable,with some bend-aid decision like this and patience and common sense,i think. So if I'm using an Xbox Elite Controller playing TGC2019 on PC, I am at an extreme disadvantage? Does a PS4 controller on the PC make things more balanced as far as difficulty? If a PS4 user has an easier time using Master Clubs, wouldn't that trigger the fair play policy if those users have less deviation in their swing mechanics? The more I read here, the more confused I get. Now it seems the answer is to have separate leagues for both clubs and platforms. |
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Post by MagneticPanda31 on May 14, 2019 7:23:29 GMT -5
The only problem with this is Xbox masters are so much harder than Ps4 masters, Thats why the majority went to pro clubs in the first place, To try and compete with them. This does make it fairer to move up the levels , but we still can't compete with the Ps4 useres. Put it this way, I'd rather be competing against a Masters clubs player on PS4 than a Pro clubs player on ANY platform. It's all relative, there's Xbox players on the Pro Tours doing pretty well. The game is what it is, all we can do is the best we can with
At least it gives us something in cc-a to aim for now. the way it was you didn't have much chance of moving up and trying to compete in the pro tours.
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Post by MagneticPanda31 on May 14, 2019 7:40:27 GMT -5
The only problem with this is Xbox masters are so much harder than Ps4 masters, Thats why the majority went to pro clubs in the first place, To try and compete with them. This does make it fairer to move up the levels , but we still can't compete with the Ps4 useres. Put it this way, I'd rather be competing against a Masters clubs player on PS4 than a Pro clubs player on ANY platform. It's all relative, there's Xbox players on the Pro Tours doing pretty well. The game is what it is, all we can do is the best we can with it. lol don't know what happened to what i wrote  anyway what I mean is I agree with the change and it does give us a chance to get out of CC-A, and get a go at the WEB if we play well. |
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Post by ezzinomilonga on May 14, 2019 7:44:33 GMT -5
So if I'm using an Xbox Elite Controller playing TGC2019 on PC, I am at an extreme disadvantage? Does a PS4 controller on the PC make things more balanced as far as difficulty? If a PS4 user has an easier time using Master Clubs, wouldn't that trigger the fair play policy if those users have less deviation in their swing mechanics? The more I read here, the more confused I get. Now it seems the answer is to have separate leagues for both clubs and platforms. Well,for what i have understand 'til now,this is the situation : The worst thing seems to be if you play with an xbox controller on the xbox. Then there are the pc players. When i need to change my controller to join this tour (my controller was a cheap one,too easy to use to be good for the API system),i ask exactly for this,to figure out what controller i have to use. The admins says that both of them (xbox or ps4 controller) were good enough for the API (but only the original ones,not thirdy party),so i made my choice. To tell you the whole truth,at the moment of this choice i was still not awared about all this issues with the different systems and controllers etc.. I made my choice just cause i'm an old ps3 player and i'm A LOT more confortable with his controller. The main form of the xbox controller and the position od the left stick (that is the one i use to play golf games) is a real nightmare for me,to the point that i was ready to quit the tour or to try to play with the mouse,if the xbox controller was the only available playing with a pc. So to answer to your question no,there's nothing of unfair using a ps4 controller and,considering the fact that seems to be absolutely clear that the xbox controller is the toughest one,my advice for every pc player is to use a ps4 controller. But you have to keep in mind that,as i have tested just some day ago,to play the game on pc with the ps4 controller,don't means absolutely that the game became easy as it is on the ps4,cause the difference is in how the game works on the two devices,not in how the controller works.For example,for me now the randomic super slow downswing stays an unsolveable issue and the sensitivity is always very higher that on ps4. But yes,even if i have never tried the xbox controller i'm pretty sure that to play the game on the pc with the ps4 controller could help you (and every pc player who are using a xbox controller). I don't know exactly how much..but i think quite a lot. I hope this can be helpful. It would be beautiful to play all of us in the same conditions. Really. |
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Post by vicrmi on May 14, 2019 8:23:25 GMT -5
Hi,I'm angry, starts a week with some rules and finish it with others rules. It's not serious.
Nonetheless, thanks a lot for all administrators, the best hard workers.
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Post by cephyn on May 14, 2019 8:59:55 GMT -5
Just some days ago i had the chance to try this game on a ps4 (i play usually with the ps4 controller,but on my pc) and is almost incredible how different things are. Playing with master clubs on ps4 is in facts easier that play with pro clubs on pc. I can't imagine how hard can be to play this game with the xbox controller. Sadly,there's no a way to solve this problem,now,without to separate every club users and every console users,but this would be to made a step to the death of this community as we knows it. What i know and i learned after almost two months spended into this community,is that all the admins and almost everyone here has the strong desire to see this community grows up strong and sane...and to keep the competition always fair and enjoyable for all of us. So i have a full faith that every choice will be made for the best of all the community. Here is not about to penalize someone, the problem here is not about some choice. Is about something broken or bugged with a real solution that's above a simple decision of common sense. We need some patience. And if HB and 2K will not solve this,i'm sure we will. In a way or in another one. Maybe even with some hard choice,but we will. But now,we can only to wait and to fix what is fixable,with some bend-aid decision like this and patience and common sense,i think. So if I'm using an Xbox Elite Controller playing TGC2019 on PC, I am at an extreme disadvantage? Does a PS4 controller on the PC make things more balanced as far as difficulty? If a PS4 user has an easier time using Master Clubs, wouldn't that trigger the fair play policy if those users have less deviation in their swing mechanics? The more I read here, the more confused I get. Now it seems the answer is to have separate leagues for both clubs and platforms. The controller on PC doesn't matter - its the platform itself. PS4s don't trigger the API because the ease isn't about straightness of swing, its about forgiveness of tempo. Maintaining good tempo is easier on PS4 than PC, which is easier to maintain than XBOX. |
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Post by gatorman on May 14, 2019 9:24:52 GMT -5
So if I'm using an Xbox Elite Controller playing TGC2019 on PC, I am at an extreme disadvantage? Does a PS4 controller on the PC make things more balanced as far as difficulty? If a PS4 user has an easier time using Master Clubs, wouldn't that trigger the fair play policy if those users have less deviation in their swing mechanics? The more I read here, the more confused I get. Now it seems the answer is to have separate leagues for both clubs and platforms. The controller on PC doesn't matter - its the platform itself. PS4s don't trigger the API because the ease isn't about straightness of swing, its about forgiveness of tempo. Maintaining good tempo is easier on PS4 than PC, which is easier to maintain than XBOX. Ok, thanks for the info. I wonder if the game could be tweaked on each platform to perform identically. |
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Post by lessangster on May 14, 2019 9:43:59 GMT -5
The controller on PC doesn't matter - its the platform itself. PS4s don't trigger the API because the ease isn't about straightness of swing, its about forgiveness of tempo. Maintaining good tempo is easier on PS4 than PC, which is easier to maintain than XBOX. Ok, thanks for the info. I wonder if the game could be tweaked on each platform to perform identically. We’ve been asking for that for months...crickets |
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Post by Koop on May 14, 2019 14:12:52 GMT -5
So these percentages are not exact or by any means scientific but......
CC-E Master Club Usage:
Wk 18 (40%)
Wk 19 (42%)
Wk 20 (40%)
Wk 21 (46%)
Wk 22 (50%) Master Qualifier
Wk 23 (40%)
Wk 24 (41%)
Wk 25 (37%) Promotional Event
Wk 26 (36%)
Wk 27 (43%) PGA Qualifier
Wk 28 (46%) Day 2 of the First week with new rule
This is just the last 10 weeks of play at the CC-E level, and I simple took the total number of Master Clubs user and divided that by the total number of participants.
I am sure someone has better numbers than this, but it will be interesting to see if there is a steady increase is Master Club use.
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Post by SkyBlueBen on May 14, 2019 14:22:36 GMT -5
Having the desired effect?
Just dug out Masters clubs for the first time in ages to ranger Royal Portrush. Pleasantly surprised. Managed a 5 under, gentle conditions to be fair, but no very fast or very slow (on PC with Xbox One controller). Either my technique has improved or something server side has improved. Not sure which. Bit early to tell after just one round but encouraged. |
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Post by ezzinomilonga on May 14, 2019 14:27:51 GMT -5
So these percentages are not exact or by any means scientific but...... CC-E Master Club Usage: Wk 18 (40%) Wk 19 (42%) Wk 20 (40%) Wk 21 (46%) Wk 22 (50%) Master Qualifier Wk 23 (40%) Wk 24 (41%) Wk 25 (37%) Promotional Event Wk 26 (36%) Wk 27 (43%) PGA Qualifier Wk 28 (46%) Day 2 of the First week with new rule This is just the last 10 weeks of play at the CC-E level, and I simple took the total number of Master Clubs user and divided that by the total number of participants. I am sure someone has better numbers than this, but it will be interesting to see if there is a steady increase is Master Club use. I'm not so sure that this change will be too much noticeable in the "minor categories". I think that the difference in the % of master users will be more evident in cc-a and b,at least in the first weeks. I think this is a change that will start to give true results in some weeks. We have also to remember that the challenge tour is "designed" mainly for the pro clubs (i mean that the gap of distance with master clubs is often less penalizing with the choice of the courses. The course of this week is a good example, cause there are no par4s too long,even when they are played against a medium high wind,so in fact to play with pro clubs don't create great issues),so i think that will not be too much the guys that will switch to master clubs so soon. Probably anyone will made his choice after a look to the course of the week. |
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Post by Giraffe72 on May 14, 2019 14:28:45 GMT -5
So these percentages are not exact or by any means scientific but...... CC-E Master Club Usage: Wk 18 (40%) Wk 19 (42%) Wk 20 (40%) Wk 21 (46%) Wk 22 (50%) Master Qualifier Wk 23 (40%) Wk 24 (41%) Wk 25 (37%) Promotional Event Wk 26 (36%) Wk 27 (43%) PGA Qualifier Wk 28 (46%) Day 2 of the First week with new rule This is just the last 10 weeks of play at the CC-E level, and I simple took the total number of Master Clubs user and divided that by the total number of participants. I am sure someone has better numbers than this, but it will be interesting to see if there is a steady increase is Master Club use. This week doesn't really count because the announcement was made after it has started. The other thing to bear in mind is you have to play all 4 rounds with Masters to show up as Masters. There may be some who start but have a bad round or two and swap to Pro to try and limit the damage. I know I would think about it. |
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anyway what I mean is I agree with the change and it does give us a chance to get out of CC-A, and get a go at the WEB if we play well.
