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Post by Demonondalinks on Sept 28, 2020 8:09:06 GMT -5
It’ll be interesting if they do patch the fast swingers and their scores start plummeting. Like a lot of us, I play for perfects, such a shame we get penalised for trying to play the game as it should be. I agree with you on this. What they need to patch with the red fast is to make it wildy inconsistent. Big Hook that flies low and goes 180 yard carry next should be dead pull of 100 yards and long and a wild slice. I don't think HB will do it as they don't really care. It's here to stay and it will eventually drag me out of competing in Societies. People will always game the system and it's all for one reason. They have to top the leaderboard. They like to see their name in lights. If we all played this game straight up it would be great. Sorry for the rant but I had to get this off my chest.
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Post by yaters on Sept 28, 2020 8:37:34 GMT -5
It’ll be interesting if they do patch the fast swingers and their scores start plummeting. Like a lot of us, I play for perfects, such a shame we get penalised for trying to play the game as it should be. HB being HB i cant see them patching that. Probly wont even have any more updates 😔. If i was forced to play perfects i dont think id last long with this game, far too hard and frustrating for me. I agree its a shitty way to score low but its the only way i can b consistant and enjoy it. How exactly are you accomplishing this? If I attempt to get a fast, like Jamie mentioned, I usually get a Slow swing. And are you going for Fast on every shot (tee and approaches)?
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Post by bubbsboy100. on Sept 28, 2020 8:38:27 GMT -5
My game has taken a step back, mainly due to making big numbers on holes. In CUCC, I made two doubles and a triple this week. In the first round of Q school, I made 7 birdies and still shot +1. I will keep grinding. Sounds like me...I play ok for most holes but trebles and even quads spoil it.
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Post by yaters on Sept 28, 2020 8:41:26 GMT -5
-4, +6, -7, +2 in q school Couldn’t control any tempo (with exception of round 3). Had zero strategy since I didn’t know if my approach was going to be fast or slow. Played all 4 rounds in about an hour. Miracle to be under par on that. A few people went crazy low. Should be some Xbox representation on the big boy tour. Think I’m going to take a few days or more away from this game. You played great for a guy who is playing the game properly. Well done! I do pretty well with the short game. I think I was 34% on GIR this tournament. I had a number of lucky chip-ins, some long putts to save par, and a lot of scrambling. For whatever reason, I am fairly comfortable off the tee (though on this course I had a number of water balls). It's my approaches that I can't find any consistency. I must have used that splash shot 60 times.
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Post by yaters on Sept 28, 2020 8:45:24 GMT -5
-4, +6, -7, +2 in q school Couldn’t control any tempo (with exception of round 3). Had zero strategy since I didn’t know if my approach was going to be fast or slow. Played all 4 rounds in about an hour. Miracle to be under par on that. A few people went crazy low. Should be some Xbox representation on the big boy tour. Think I’m going to take a few days or more away from this game. You are under par , every tournament I play you are under par and on the first page or two. for those of us losing the will to live .... stop complaining !! I understand what you are saying. I'm just complaining relative to my own expectations and performance. It's the same thing up and down the tour structure here - people that shoot -50 complain they missed a few putts.
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Post by jp44 on Sept 28, 2020 8:54:28 GMT -5
Woke up early yesterday and thought it would be a good idea to get straight into Q-school rounds....
Shot a +6 in the first round after changing my driver for the first time in weeks. Started the next round by accident but decided to play it anyhow.... first tee shot goes into the water.
Sitting three off the tee on the first whole of R2 right now....
Probably just shot myself out of the pro tours with a shocker of a first round. Tempo was completely out of control. Any hazard in my range was hit. Lipped out any putt I had a chance at making. Gonna try and shake it off and finish up my rounds later but pretty damn discouraged right now. Not a very forgiving course.
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Post by daddyjules on Sept 28, 2020 9:09:29 GMT -5
HB being HB i cant see them patching that. Probly wont even have any more updates 😔. If i was forced to play perfects i dont think id last long with this game, far too hard and frustrating for me. I agree its a shitty way to score low but its the only way i can b consistant and enjoy it. How exactly are you accomplishing this? If I attempt to get a fast, like Jamie mentioned, I usually get a Slow swing. And are you going for Fast on every shot (tee and approaches)? Mainly fast everything, if i need a perfect on a short approach i will practice swing a few times , still nothing guaranteed, il only do that with wedges, got no chance with irons, best i cud do is a marginal slow with them. Even playing for fasts doesnt work all the time, still get a few slows and the odd very fast. I pull the stick back quite steady then have a firm fast push forward, if i push forward too softly i get the slow and if im too quick and harsh il get the very fast, i can now feel when this is gna happen, whereas 2 weeks ago i cudnt work out why things were happening. I get why demon and others hate to see people playing like this but personally i havent got time to b wrestling with the tempo trying to get perfects which are few n far between and seem to b random at times.
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Post by bubbsboy100. on Sept 28, 2020 9:26:06 GMT -5
Lots will play fasts and not perform as well as you so fasts ain't everything.
I don't play for fasts on all shots but expect to get them so I do plan for it. But of course that can lead me into the sh1te.
I do play for fasts if water right or dog leg left but again it doesn't always work.
Fasts has its own demons. The ball travelling further than expected so that needs factoring in as well.
So fasts don't get everyone to succeed in the game cos plenty struggle playing that way.
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Post by Rosebowl88 on Sept 28, 2020 9:28:41 GMT -5
I give u props for playing for perfects, as I do and many others as well. Those low scores are primarily players playing the fast, so they don’t have to worry about hitting a fast or slow. The pro tours will be heavily top loaded with those playing fasts. No hard feelings, as I understand why people choose to play that way but it is a bit frustrating as I play for perfects and know it will be very hard to complete with them. Lots of us feel ur pain. It’s a very difficult game. I don’t know how to play for fasts honestly. If I could get fasts all the time I’d probably try. That first course wasn’t as punishing with bigger landing areas. I aimed down the middle and a fast or slow was usually playable. Not this course though. I can’t really get more than a few swings in a row with the same tempo. I just played two rounds and got almost all fasts on round 1, started playing for them Round 2....perfects or slows. Makes no sense
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Post by Rat Patrol55 on Sept 28, 2020 9:52:54 GMT -5
Well its out of my hands now. I'm kind of relieved that it is. That 4th round was my worst I couldn't do any think reasonably right. I was struggling the last 5 holes were a #$@ show. I shot a +15 in that round for a +43 for round 2 and +33 rd 1 total +76. 24 shots to spare 😆. On my realistic goal.
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Post by bubbsboy100. on Sept 28, 2020 10:01:28 GMT -5
There will be lots of strugglers in whatever group with you ( and me if I turn in some of my known sh1t shows lol ) so should be interesting .
Some of the mid challenge groups will have numerous players who are good but had possibly one bad round.
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Post by Chief Banks on Sept 28, 2020 10:01:41 GMT -5
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Post by knickerbocker on Sept 28, 2020 10:04:23 GMT -5
Playing for fasts is not easy. I generally try to hit perfect, but plan for a fast as a miss. That is the best way I know how to manage a round.
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Post by Chief Banks on Sept 28, 2020 10:53:48 GMT -5
Im gonna say this because i see it as being a big topic of discussion of whether or not its an advantage or disadvantage. There are quite a few of us that play the swing as it was designed in game and some that play a fast in the swing. I am sure both techniques are difficult to use to get a straight successful shot, I personally play the swing much like TGC2019 and I get perfects pretty often i'd say maybe 70% of the round. My issue is not being able to keep the swing path straight in the white line and when i do get a fast / slow it reacts like it should, but I truly believe your swing is based off you and you only thru the calibration and how you swing with your controller. I dont play the fast and am finding success in FIR and GIR. Im not saying either technique is right or wrong im just reiterating that maybe the swing may of been broken when it was released? People will play the game the way it works for them and there is nothing wrong with that. Just trust me when i say its all in the calibration mixed with club selections. When you find a good calibration that works for you, im sure there may be no need to play the fast. Just my opinion.
"Don't Hate...Calibrate !" Play what makes you happy.
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Post by yaters on Sept 28, 2020 11:19:37 GMT -5
How exactly are you accomplishing this? If I attempt to get a fast, like Jamie mentioned, I usually get a Slow swing. And are you going for Fast on every shot (tee and approaches)? Mainly fast everything, if i need a perfect on a short approach i will practice swing a few times , still nothing guaranteed, il only do that with wedges, got no chance with irons, best i cud do is a marginal slow with them. Even playing for fasts doesnt work all the time, still get a few slows and the odd very fast. I pull the stick back quite steady then have a firm fast push forward, if i push forward too softly i get the slow and if im too quick and harsh il get the very fast, i can now feel when this is gna happen, whereas 2 weeks ago i cudnt work out why things were happening. I get why demon and others hate to see people playing like this but personally i havent got time to b wrestling with the tempo trying to get perfects which are few n far between and seem to b random at times. That's helpful - appreciate the insight on that. You are a top quality player as it stands, so any kind of consistency for your swing is going to get results for sure. I saw your scores for Q-school and you've figured something out for sure. I might work on this and see if I can make 'fasts' my go to shot. Feels so unnatural to do that and I'm having a hard time getting my head wrapped around it. I honestly haven't decided if I am going to participate in TGCTours this season at all. I just have a hard time in the perceived fairness of it all. I watch streams once in awhile from PS4 or PC players and shake my head that while they may not be 100% consistent, I never see them get the VF/VS that plagues me a few times a round. My first round in this Q-school week I was going along pretty good and then had consecutive VS into water...hadn't happened all round. Felt like the same swing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I suppose this all sounds prideful or selfish or whatever other label you want to apply. I'm hyper competitive and just want to perform as best as I can. I have no intention of offending others with my 'complaints.'
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