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Post by boffo on May 9, 2019 18:28:47 GMT -5
By the way, as I watched the Sharks/Avs game, I thought "The best players on the ice are Grubauer, MacKinnon, and every Shark." I didn't realize MacKinnon was playing hurt. He is amazing. Hockey players in general are amazing when it comes to putting the team ahead of themselves. Heard Roope Hintz of Dallas played all of game 7 with a broken foot. I'll never forget the game where Gregory Campbell blocked a shot on the PK against Pittsburgh breaking his leg but he managed to keep playing for another minute or so, block another shot and finally get himself off the ice once the puck had been cleared. Or Patrice Bergeron playing game 6 of the 2013 finals with a broken rib, seperated shoulder and punctured lung. Do athletes in any other sport just shrug off this kind of stuff and play through it?
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Post by ErixonStone on May 9, 2019 19:02:50 GMT -5
Hockey players in general are amazing when it comes to putting the team ahead of themselves. Heard Roope Hintz of Dallas played all of game 7 with a broken foot. I'll never forget the game where Gregory Campbell blocked a shot on the PK against Pittsburgh breaking his leg but he managed to keep playing for another minute or so, block another shot and finally get himself off the ice once the puck had been cleared. Or Patrice Bergeron playing game 6 of the 2013 finals with a broken rib, seperated shoulder and punctured lung. Do athletes in any other sport just shrug off this kind of stuff and play through it? I used to have a laminated newspaper article that compared Hockey in May to Baseball in May. I'll see if I can find it in an online archive (local paper, so idk). Was pretty funny.
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Post by 15eicheltower9 on May 9, 2019 19:27:52 GMT -5
St. Louis and San Jose... two Western Conference perennial "chokers" in the conference finals - Sharks for the 2nd time in 4 years. Seems weird. Since 2002, every time the Hurricanes bother to make the playoffs, they make the conference finals. Then there's Boston which has been good for a decade - only narrowly missing the playoffs twice (with 93 and 96 points) during "rebuilding" years. Sharks for the second time in 4 years and they played St. Louis the first time so it's their second in 4 as well. Neither with a Cup in franchise history and the chance of a first timer is always nice. I've loved how the moment it became obvious Boston would be playing Carolina all the media types have been jokingly calling the Hurricanes the Whalers instead. A very tired joke already, but I could only wish it to be so because that rivalry never ended well for the Whalers. I have a couple friends who cringe when the Hurricanes and Whalers are mentioned in the same sentence. They were Whalers fans and they are quick to say the Hurricanes are not the Whalers.
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Post by cliffs on May 10, 2019 7:13:18 GMT -5
By the way, as I watched the Sharks/Avs game, I thought "The best players on the ice are Grubauer, MacKinnon, and every Shark." I didn't realize MacKinnon was playing hurt. He is amazing. Hockey players in general are amazing when it comes to putting the team ahead of themselves. Heard Roope Hintz of Dallas played all of game 7 with a broken foot. I'll never forget the game where Gregory Campbell blocked a shot on the PK against Pittsburgh breaking his leg but he managed to keep playing for another minute or so, block another shot and finally get himself off the ice once the puck had been cleared. Or Patrice Bergeron playing game 6 of the 2013 finals with a broken rib, seperated shoulder and punctured lung. Do athletes in any other sport just shrug off this kind of stuff and play through it? American football? I'm sure rugby and soccer players play with a bit of discomfort.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 8:18:49 GMT -5
Hockey players in general are amazing when it comes to putting the team ahead of themselves. Heard Roope Hintz of Dallas played all of game 7 with a broken foot. I'll never forget the game where Gregory Campbell blocked a shot on the PK against Pittsburgh breaking his leg but he managed to keep playing for another minute or so, block another shot and finally get himself off the ice once the puck had been cleared. Or Patrice Bergeron playing game 6 of the 2013 finals with a broken rib, seperated shoulder and punctured lung. Do athletes in any other sport just shrug off this kind of stuff and play through it? American football? I'm sure rugby and soccer players play with a bit of discomfort. Soccer players roll around like they’ve been shot to pull a penalty, it’s the one thing I hate about the sport. Aussie rules players pretend they aren’t injured so the coach won’t take them off. Plenty of examples like Dippa playing an entire Grand Final with a lung that was slowly deflating from the rib that had broken, detached and punctured it in his first collision of the match, or Fyfe playing a GF with a broken foot in a game where running 10k isn’t unusual. Hockey players are tough, but they aren’t unique.
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Post by cliffs on May 10, 2019 8:35:05 GMT -5
Hockey players are tough, but they aren’t unique.
AND they are fully padded up. I played hockey for 33 years and it was rare to be hurt during a game. Sure bumps and bruises but with the way we were padded, nothing major for the most part. That was over 25 years ago and the padding is made much better today. I played defense and it took a lot of head games to continuously throw your body on to the ice to block some shots. Worst injury I got from shot blocking was a huge bruise under an eye but no broken bones.
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Post by boffo on May 15, 2019 11:15:02 GMT -5
Tuukka Rask has been playing fairly well.
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Post by cliffs on May 15, 2019 14:25:33 GMT -5
If not for Tuukka.
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Post by cliffs on May 16, 2019 6:00:38 GMT -5
My grandkids are all walking around crying out...SWEEP SWEEP...go Bruins go.
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Post by boffo on May 16, 2019 15:10:32 GMT -5
While it would be nice to just get things over with and move on while giving the team some rest, I don't know. While it has no relevance to the Bruins you can't help but notice how things have gone for sweeping teams the following round. Plus, as a fan and perhaps as a player as well sitting around for a week plus waiting for the next game can't help but take you out of hockey mode for at least a few days. I much prefer two or three days off and then getting right back at it.
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Post by ErixonStone on May 16, 2019 15:22:11 GMT -5
I have always felt that winning in six was the most advantageous method of advancing. The next advantageous, I have felt was in 7, unless the prior series lasted 6 or 7. There is some balance between fatigue and rust that appears to be at play.
The Bruins should be actively trying to lose game 4 and win game 5 because it looks like the Blues/Sharks series is shaping up to be a long one.
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Post by cliffs on May 16, 2019 16:04:39 GMT -5
I personally (much to my grandkids amusement) agree with the above 2 statements
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Post by boffo on May 16, 2019 16:23:56 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of the phrase "actively trying to lose" as that's not something you should ever do in the playoffs, plus 2010 memories still linger. Don't want to be doing anything too stupid or let bad habits creep into your game. Maybe "play well enough to win but come up short" would be better.
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Post by golferdude1994 on May 16, 2019 21:22:47 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of the phrase "actively trying to lose" as that's not something you should ever do in the playoffs, plus 2010 memories still linger. Don't want to be doing anything too stupid or let bad habits creep into your game. Maybe "play well enough to win but come up short" would be better. teams have won from coming back from a 3-0 deficit. You don't want to purposely lose game 4 to prolong the series. You need to win the series whenever the opportunity presents itself. If a team is good enough,they will win the following series after sweeping the previous series.
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Post by mrooola on May 17, 2019 3:31:08 GMT -5
I agree that the extra rest you get from sweeping a series in general is not advantageous, but it's different for the conference finals. Even if that west final goes 7 games both teams get an extended rest.
I'm no expert, but I've been told that when your body works as intense that these guys work over the playoffs, the first thing that happens is that your body goes down in tempo. It's not until you get a few days rest that the body actually starts to recover. So in a sense it could well be that the conference finals is the best series to sweep anyone.
Then again. This could all be complete nonsense. It's what I've been told. I have not done any research to this myself.
Much as playing a physical sport with broken bones or punctured lungs is something to admire and not just be seen as incredibly careless and testament to the fact that many who play said sports are not the sharpest tools in the shed.
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