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Post by blackaces13 on Oct 8, 2018 21:24:41 GMT -5
I’ve been playing these games since the beginning so I’m pretty well versed in the gameplay. That said, I’m currently confused about 2 things:
1. The ‘fast’ backswing means that you started your downswing too early, this is also how you take distance off of chips/pitches where you want to hit less than 100%. So, why does it seem like fast backswings on approach shots are adding 10 yards of distance? Does a fast/perfect drive work on the same principle and actually go farther? Seems like fast backswing should be a small distance penalty but my experience is exactly the opposite.
2. 95% power. I just saw in the tutorial video that you can get perfect/perfect and hit less than 100% power. This is foreign to me. In the video John says you can do this by pulling the stick back slower on the backswing. This sounds extremely difficult. Is anyone actually using this with good results?
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Post by cseanny on Oct 9, 2018 1:27:02 GMT -5
Fast backswings paired with any downswing tempo (even slow) gains net yards. So F/P drives work on the same principle, Yes. In regards to question 2, I've seen the video but don't actually know anyone who uses the technique. Full shots with the loft box or partial shots would be the best options there I think.
Do you play on Console or PC? Imo, on console it's extremely easy to dial in the tempo you want, however, on PC it's a bit more like breaking a code to find the correct Cpu, Gpu, Power, Mouse, Acceleration, and finally, in-game settings o_^. I bring this up because if you're on PC just have a little patience and it will eventually come together (just a different learning curve).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2018 2:26:01 GMT -5
There are several layers to short ("fast" as it says in the game but really it just means incomplete) downswings and I think they've done a really clever job with this, it's the reason why my ultra sim no-loft-box society can work. You can manipulate distance control without the loft box really well because of it, here's a vid showing the distance differences with a 9 iron and PW:
Basically, a fast but 100% power backswing gives you more distance, and that's just an incomplete backswing where you finish just before the normal completion of the backswing. If you time the backswing to be a bit shorter, then you get 95% power, a bit shorter, 90% power, then 85% power etc.
95% is the only slightly dodgy one, because with longer clubs it still goes longer and I've found it's best to try for 85/90% to take distance off those. Generally with longer shots (say 210+ yards) it's safer to do a slow backswing (where you hold it at the top just a fraction longer than normal for a perfect backswing) because timing for 90% is very tricky and takes a lot of practice.
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Post by blackaces13 on Oct 9, 2018 4:28:58 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies. So, the optimal drive should be hit with a fast backswing and perfect downswing. This is very counterintuitive.
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Post by cliffs on Oct 9, 2018 6:12:12 GMT -5
#2, I use this all the time to get perfect perfect 3 quarter shots.
Around the green I use partial shots and get perfect perfect almost every time.
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Post by fadgewacker on Oct 9, 2018 10:13:13 GMT -5
#2, I use this all the time to get perfect perfect 3 quarter shots. Around the green I use partial shots and get perfect perfect almost every time. Is that on Pro or Masters, Cliffs? |
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Post by cliffs on Oct 9, 2018 10:17:38 GMT -5
#2, I use this all the time to get perfect perfect 3 quarter shots. Around the green I use partial shots and get perfect perfect almost every time. Is that on Pro or Masters, Cliffs? Both and even moreso on the Pro. |
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Post by fadgewacker on Oct 9, 2018 10:51:05 GMT -5
Is that on Pro or Masters, Cliffs? Both and even moreso on the Pro. Always the fast backswings when I chip. Masters. |
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Post by mcbogga on Oct 9, 2018 11:23:03 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies. So, the optimal drive should be hit with a fast backswing and perfect downswing. This is very counterintuitive. The optimal drive is the sling draw, fast/fast and a stick path to the right. Generates maximum carry and roll out. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2018 12:08:47 GMT -5
Fast/Fast with a lofted driver. 20-25 or even more yards if you dare to really loft it up versus a Perf/Perf no lofted driver. Not crazy about this workaround/slight cheese of what is supposed to be distance variance in the tempo mechanic, but I will learn it at some point I suppose.
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Post by mcbogga on Oct 9, 2018 13:12:15 GMT -5
Fast/Fast with a lofted driver. 20-25 or even more yards if you dare to really loft it up versus a Perf/Perf no lofted driver. Not crazy about this workaround/slight cheese of what is supposed to be distance variance in the tempo mechanic, but I will learn it at some point I suppose. I like it, can hit some real bombs downwind with max lofted driver. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2018 13:25:57 GMT -5
Fast/Fast with a lofted driver. 20-25 or even more yards if you dare to really loft it up versus a Perf/Perf no lofted driver. Not crazy about this workaround/slight cheese of what is supposed to be distance variance in the tempo mechanic, but I will learn it at some point I suppose. I like it, can hit some real bombs downwind with max lofted driver. Yep, I had a couple of 430-yard drives on Pearl Mountain today  My average drive in the new game is 305+ which is ridiculous though. That's going to change when they increase the rough penalty though, it just won't be worth the risk to max loft and fast every drive. |
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Post by cliffs on Oct 9, 2018 15:39:06 GMT -5
I average 320 hitting perfect perfect with Master set...hit one 348 today with only a 4 mph wind onto a flat fairway. I am starting to enjoy the Master set YET, it is still a lot like real golf in the sense i can hit a misshot at any time.
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Post by blackaces13 on Oct 9, 2018 18:25:15 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies. So, the optimal drive should be hit with a fast backswing and perfect downswing. This is very counterintuitive. The optimal drive is the sling draw, fast/fast and a stick path to the right. Generates maximum carry and roll out. Are you actually doing this? Or is this just something to know, but not try on the course. |
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Post by mcbogga on Oct 10, 2018 0:12:03 GMT -5
The optimal drive is the sling draw, fast/fast and a stick path to the right. Generates maximum carry and roll out. Are you actually doing this? Or is this just something to know, but not try on the course. Have been doing this on holes where it makes sense. For me at least it comes with added dispersion and the occasional big miss. |
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My average drive in the new game is 305+ which is ridiculous though. That's going to change when they increase the rough penalty though, it just won't be worth the risk to max loft and fast every drive.