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Post by Doyley on Sept 20, 2018 10:36:51 GMT -5
Two questions, all seems fairly simple and well thought through. Will the API pick up club sets so we KNOW everyone is using the right set? What will happen to people who use the easier club sets and qualify for the pro tours? I’m using the Master clubs (and will regardless), but suspect I’d qualify higher using the easier sets. I’m hoping that anyone using the easier clubs will be restricted to the CC-Am leaderboards. Thanks for any answers 👍 1. Yes 2. Pro/Beginner clubsets can only go as high as CC-A out of all Q-Schools (even if you only use them 1 of the Q-School rounds) |
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Post by drumelin on Sept 20, 2018 10:44:54 GMT -5
I’m new to the forum and this might seem like a dumb question, but does this update involve buying a new game? Wil TGC2 be useless now?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 10:46:46 GMT -5
I’m new to the forum and this might seem like a dumb question, but does this update involve buying a new game? Wil TGC2 be useless now? Yes, you'll need to purchase The Golf Club 2019 featuring PGA Tour for use in TGC Tours for Season 5. |
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Post by martbloke on Sept 20, 2018 10:48:05 GMT -5
I’m new to the forum and this might seem like a dumb question, but does this update involve buying a new game? Wil TGC2 be useless now? Yes for the new season and onwards, this platform (TGC Tours) will be running on the new TGC 2019 game, not TGC2. |
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Post by martbloke on Sept 20, 2018 10:48:54 GMT -5
Assume that in the CC-Pro and CC-AM divisions, if wanted, we can turn off all aids and these are not going to be locked to on? Wind meter, green grids, scout cam, putting marker? Just the way I like to play. Will be set to Any - meaning if you want to play with green grids off etc you can. Good stuff. Cheers Doyley! |
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Post by ddixjr509 on Sept 20, 2018 10:54:03 GMT -5
I'm digging the changes that are coming!
1. So +/- 1500 Tour members, 50% (750) will be using Masters Clubs. Top 450 make Pro tours, which leaves the worst 300 Masters users scattered about the CC Tours. Given the new slow promotion and being integrated with Pro Clubs users- there will be a lot of Masters users stuck deep in CC and looking at a minimum of 4-6 months to work their way up to Web. Puts enormous importance on Q-School (Dont sh|t yourself during Q School folks!).
2. What if you miss one of the two Q-Schools (Vacation, work trip, hospital stay, whatever) will there eventually be make up Q School tournaments?
3. I haven't heard an answer on the re-setting of the WGR rankings as well.
4. Folks crying about level playing field and being penalized for using Pro clubs... go turn in your Callaway X-18's or Ping 35s for the old Nicklaus Wilson blades with the sweet spot the size of a nickel if you want to understand the difference between Pro clubs and Masters clubs.
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Post by fadgewacker on Sept 20, 2018 10:59:56 GMT -5
Fully agree. Special tournaments that have some entry level exclusivity should also exist within the tour structure outside of PGA Open qualifying for the US Open and Open Championship are still in Season 5 where all of TGCT has a shot of getting in. Same with CC qualifying for Masters/PGA Championship - a few slots will be available there. Outside of that there aren't any plans of doing anything other than WGC events, Tournament of Champions type stuff on the PGA Tour. Fair enough and noted regards Open / Masters Quals... I can only imagine how much extra work it would be in honesty. It's a bit of a shame that in or around the time of certain Majors that there couldn't an opportunity to mirror proceedings further down the schedule IMO.Just replace that weeks scheduled event with a mirror of the Major. No pissing about with extra points etc, but at least a copy of the course and format for the amateur tours. Just my 2p. |
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Post by BIELSALUFC on Sept 20, 2018 11:00:06 GMT -5
Happy with the changes. Thanks to Doyley and co for their continued hard work.
Im currently on holiday and not returning until 2nd October. If I miss the first round of Q school when will I get another oppurtunity?
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Post by AFCTUJacko on Sept 20, 2018 11:06:27 GMT -5
Open qualifying for the US Open and Open Championship are still in Season 5 where all of TGCT has a shot of getting in. Same with CC qualifying for Masters/PGA Championship - a few slots will be available there. Outside of that there aren't any plans of doing anything other than WGC events, Tournament of Champions type stuff on the PGA Tour. No pissing about with extra points etc, but at least a copy of the course and format for the amateur tours. If you're going to do that you might as well make the Masters a 750 player tournament.
This place is still meant to mirror the real life tour structure as closely as possible. Obviously liberties are taken in some places, but dumbing down the majors is a big no from me
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Post by Doyley on Sept 20, 2018 11:10:06 GMT -5
The system is operating on a sliding scale - you'll add/subtract marks - you'll never have both promotion and demotion marks at the same time. I'll give a scenario to help clear up any questions.
Scenario - Pro Tour (user on European Tour)
W1: Finish 34th
W2: Finish 8th
W3: WD (rage quit - didn't complete full event)
W4: Win
W5: Finish 5th
W6: Missed Cut
W7: Win
W8: Win
Promotion/Demotion marks at the start of the week:
W2: 0 marks
W3: 1 promo
W4: 1 demotion
W5: 1 promo
W6: 2 promo
W7: 1 promo
W8: 3 promo
W9: 5 promo (promoted to PGA Tour)
Once you've earned a Promotion Mark you're trying to make cuts (Pro Tours) or finish 70+ (Challenge Circuit) to keep them
Once you've gotten a Demotion Mark you're trying to make cuts (Pro Tours) or finish 70+ (Challenge Circuit) to begin to remove them.
Below it's broken down into all 3 scenarios per Pro Tour/Challenge Circuit.
PRO TOURS
1. Member has no Promotion/Demotion mark(s)
Win - earn 2 promotion marks
Top 10 - earn 1 promotion mark
120-139 - get 1 demotion mark
140+/DQ/WD - get 2 demotion marks
2. Member has Promotion Mark(s)
Win - earn 2 promotion marks
Top 10 - earn 1 promotion mark
Miss cut to 139 - lose 1 promotion mark
140th+/DQ/WD - lose 2 promotion marks (sliding scale)
3. Member has Demotion Mark(s)
Win - earn 2 promotion marks (sliding scale)
Make cut - clear 1 demotion mark
120-139 - get 1 demotion mark
140+/DQ/WD - get 2 demotion marks
CHALLENGE CIRCUIT
1. Member has no Promotion/Demotion mark(s)
Win - auto promotion (unless on CC-A and not Master Clubs)
Top 20 - earn 1 promotion mark
120-139 - get 1 demotion mark
140+/DQ/WD - get 2 demotion marks
2. Member has Promotion Mark(s)
Win - auto promotion (unless on CC-A and not Master Clubs)
Top 20 - earn 1 promotion mark
71-139 - lose 1 promotion mark
140th+/DQ/WD - lose 2 promotion marks (sliding scale)
3. Member has Demotion Mark(s)
Win - auto promotion (unless on CC-A and not Master Clubs)
70 or better - clear 1 demotion mark
120-139 - get 1 demotion mark
140+/DQ/WD - get 2 demotion marks
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 11:11:02 GMT -5
Flops are my night nightmare lol. Giving myself some 15/20ft+ putts most of the time lol. Pitching has been a bit better for me, but damn, one fast downswing and you turn that 52yd pitch into a 65/70 one haha. Sweaty hands with pitches and flops. I much prefer a full normal shot haha. Same. I loved the pitches on TGC2, finding myself leaving 100 now if I can. Course management? Holy s**t, what is this?!?! |
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Post by Doyley on Sept 20, 2018 11:12:38 GMT -5
I'm digging the changes that are coming! 2. What if you miss one of the two Q-Schools (Vacation, work trip, hospital stay, whatever) will there eventually be make up Q School tournaments? Yes, same as this past season - there will be a weekly Q-School run out of CC-Pro for all new members or old ones that didn't get a card in the mass Q-School3. I haven't heard an answer on the re-setting of the WGR rankings as well. Let me discuss with Tim - some logistics here that may affect what we do |
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Post by Doyley on Sept 20, 2018 11:16:23 GMT -5
Happy with the changes. Thanks to Doyley and co for their continued hard work. Im currently on holiday and not returning until 2nd October. If I miss the first round of Q school when will I get another oppurtunity? If anyone misses the initial Q-School, you'll be able to register for our weekly Q-Schools that will start the first week of the regular season. |
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Post by rob4590 on Sept 20, 2018 11:21:29 GMT -5
Scott - are you planning to add a column on the leaderboards for what clubs each player is using (should be able to do so easily directly from the API)?
This will be a huge deal in CC-A with regard to promotion marks - people there using master clubs will need to know which other players they are actually competing against for these (while those players using pro clubs won't be competing for them)
Personally - slightly disappointed that Q-school is mandatory - I spent the whole of last season working my way to WT, and now I've got to do it all again (although the aim is to do it in Q-School)
I'd also say that there should be a maximum amount that a player should be able to drop from their S4 tour level (eg 2 levels) - if you were a top player in S4, then you will (Eventually) also be one in S5 - and it's somewhat unfair for those in CC / Web having to face people who should really be in a much higher tour......
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Post by Doyley on Sept 20, 2018 11:30:03 GMT -5
Scott - are you planning to add a column on the leaderboards for what clubs each player is using (should be able to do so easily directly from the API)? It's on the list - should be possible |
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