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Post by Violinguy69 on Sept 5, 2018 8:54:00 GMT -5
I'm a little late to this party, but... First off, a giant thank you to Doyley and the rest of the admins who work so hard to run this place. Second, there will not be a system in place that pleases everyone, so we should all be prepared to compete in a system we might not personally love. My take on promotions, etc. If it is going to take several weeks of excellent play to move up, we should absolutely redo Q-school. I hate to say it because I just earned my full-time status on Web last week, but without redoing Q-school, we're going to have several players destroying the CC tours waiting to get enough promotion pins (or whatever  ) to move up. Quarterly promotion tournaments are an excellent idea. Players who haven't won, but are shooting lights out can get the promotion they deserve without waiting however many weeks. Whatever you all decide is fine with me. I love playing here. I bought TGC2 to design courses and then found myself improving as a player, enough to go from CC-C to Web over one season. This is a great group of people and best of luck to all of you as we try and figure out this new game.  |
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Post by alexandre on Sept 5, 2018 13:33:57 GMT -5
What are the managers' expectations regarding the number of players who will initially buy the TGC2019? Will the first month already have 500 active players with the new platform  I bought and tested the game quickly today (it was difficult with the simpler bag, the intermediate and the master think I will be far from using) and I have already seen that I will not belong to the EURO until I learn to play. |
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Post by ahohenadel on Sept 5, 2018 17:29:18 GMT -5
When can we expect Q-School to be available for new players who are just jumping into TGCT on 2019?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 19:05:32 GMT -5
When can we expect Q-School to be available for new players who are just jumping into TGCT on 2019? If goes well then the first week that the tours go to TGC2019. Tentatively set for the week of Oct. 1st |
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Post by Brighttail on Sept 7, 2018 19:56:51 GMT -5
In case I missed this, is there going to be a requirement to use master clubs on the PGA tour? I know the WT was like that and the PGA wasn't so I wasn't sure what the rule was going to be this time around.
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Post by Doyley on Sept 7, 2018 20:37:31 GMT -5
Waiting on announcing a few things until I get confirmation we can implement them. At this time we're in a hold pattern until the patch arrives. Tim is busy with work for another 4 or 5 days so there won't be much action during that time. Highest priority at the moment is getting the site ready for TGC 2019 courses. Once the patch is released and we confirm societies are bug free enough for us to run tours on, we'll have a big announcement/email go out detailing all the loose strings before Ryder Cup/Season 5 gets under way.
Until then, new members are in a hold pattern - old members can finish up Season 4 on TGC2 - otherwise best I can do is to encourage everyone participate in our exhibition events and be ready to go fairly quickly after the patch drops.
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Post by Brighttail on Sept 7, 2018 22:04:46 GMT -5
TEASE!!!
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Post by Art Vandelay on Sept 7, 2018 22:14:07 GMT -5
Would be sweet if their patch made the mouse swing a bit more like TGC2 in regards to timing with the golfers' swing. I'm trying to get used to it, but at this rate I envision dropping down the CC ladder like a lead zeppelin.
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Post by Brighttail on Sept 7, 2018 22:38:21 GMT -5
I think i've gotten used to the mouse swing at the Pro level but going to Masters is a completely different beast. I go from 70-80% P/P on Pro to >10% on Masters and the swing plane is way outside the cone. I can shoot -9 on Pro but have only cracked par once on Master. I hit farther on Pro than on 98% of master clubs. I'm sad.
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Post by KenTremendous on Sept 8, 2018 12:38:22 GMT -5
If Masters clubs arent enforced on the top level i forsee a mass-debate...
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Post by Giraffe72 on Sept 8, 2018 12:48:10 GMT -5
If Masters clubs arent enforced on the top level i forsee a mass-debate... I just foresee a mass debate anyway! |
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Post by Brighttail on Sept 8, 2018 15:01:03 GMT -5
I never saw the big deal with. Each club set has its advantages. I was playing with Smoothe the other day and he was able to go for a couple par 5s that I wasn't able to playing with Pro clubs. Considering in real golf you got the long bombers and then you have other players who hit 30-50 yards shorter, we don't have that in this game when playing with the same clubs. Everyone can hit the ball the same distance. Playing with the masters I find myself playing simply for length since the rough is currently no big deal, so driver then wedge. Pro clubs I gotta pick the position a bit more and play a 7 or 8 iron in. Two completely different games, both valid and I think more realistic.
If there was an elite tour I would be fine with master clubs only, with TGCT taking out that tour, no real reason for the restriction. Now since there is no 'spin' to speak of or ability to hold the shots better with master clubs like there was in TGC 2, not really seeing too much of an advantage of using them.
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Post by Coniglio on Sept 9, 2018 7:20:44 GMT -5
Masters only advantage is the distance, which is not always very important. The other sets offer way more and how easy the game gets for those who can control the swing perfectly and know how to get ball close every time is even bigger. Masters offers a bigger chance for most players to have bad shots. Bad shots for most is what we need. Not less. I'm talking about people who can play well with the sets. No need for people to jump in and tell me how much they struggle. Just measuring those who can control it.
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Post by KenTremendous on Sept 9, 2018 12:09:56 GMT -5
Now since there is no 'spin' to speak of or ability to hold the shots better with master clubs like there was in TGC 2 , not really seeing too much of an advantage of using them.Exactly my point Ron. As it stands there really isnt much advantage to Masters, but there is a massive built in advantage to Pro with the huge cones on every shot making it that much easier, even on putting, makes pulling/pushing them almost impossible. Pro clubs make it a different game entirely, very TGC 1 like, if Masters arent enforced on the top tour i forsee a lot of people using pro. |
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Post by Brighttail on Sept 9, 2018 13:00:13 GMT -5
Now since there is no 'spin' to speak of or ability to hold the shots better with master clubs like there was in TGC 2 , not really seeing too much of an advantage of using them.Exactly my point Ron. As it stands there really isnt much advantage to Masters, but there is a massive built in advantage to Pro with the huge cones on every shot making it that much easier, even on putting, makes pulling/pushing them almost impossible. Pro clubs make it a different game entirely, very TGC 1 like, if Masters arent enforced on the top tour i forsee a lot of people using pro. So unlike TGC 2 where the top tier clubs had not only a distance advantage but allowed you to stop the ball quicker with a bit of spin, TGC 2019 doesn't have this advantage.
So the only reason to force them on the top tour now is that they are harder to hit and give greater disadvantages if you miss. That seems backwards to me.
Having played with both, the swing itself is about the same but you have to be quicker on your downswing using Master clubs, this quicker pace often translates into 90-95% power shots or not a straight swing cause it isn't as smooth of a transition. I view it as if the true pros had a choice of playing with a big bertha driver or one of the original smaller metal woods. As an example you could hit it longer with the smaller head if you hit it flush but if you don't a player hitting a good shot with the big bertha ends up out driving you by 20 yards, so lets make the pros play with the smaller headed drivers cause they are pros! Doesn't make sense.
I hope HB does whatever tweaks down the road to make the masters more beneficial with things like better spin control, hell any type of spin would be a plus and perhaps a higher trajectory. As of now there simply isn't enough advantage to use Master clubs over Pro because the disadvantages are so large and isn't proportional.
Personally I would rather have people play whatever clubs they want and see more competition for the top spots than to force clubs that have no real advantage and would pretty much create a tour where an elite tour would be needed again because of the scoring discrepancies. For me difference between master/pro clubs is about 6-8 shots which is huge.
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) to move up. Quarterly promotion tournaments are an excellent idea. Players who haven't won, but are shooting lights out can get the promotion they deserve without waiting however many weeks.
