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Post by ProjectM4yhem23 on Feb 3, 2015 16:24:55 GMT -5
This is a situation where you have to throw the book out the window....that is a big drop over a short distance...where is the steepest part of the hill....if its in the early part of the putt you basically just get the ball rolling. If not you find the distance to that spot and try and get the ball to just reach that spot and let gravity take over....if its a uniform slope you did the right thing dial way back on the distance and let it roll....you did pretty good in this case an 8 foot comebacker at Augusta is pretty normal....if you are close on the line you will generally have a straight uphill comebacker. The more you play the course the better your touch will be.....but some putts are just gonna be damage control.
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Post by billybudd0623 on Feb 3, 2015 17:06:02 GMT -5
ProjectM4yhem23, In real life on a putt like that, I try to find what I call the fall line ( where the putt will fall to the hole ) What you alluded to in your answer. At Augusta there is no room for error. I have left them short and putted them off the green. I can handle putts like that on a real course but at Augusta on the video game greens are borderline to fast. It is refreshing and challanging to play there knowing you had better think about every shot and where you want to land the ball on the green.
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Post by ProjectM4yhem23 on Feb 4, 2015 9:38:28 GMT -5
Yep. Love the challenge.
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Post by mnguy12000 on Feb 5, 2015 10:20:21 GMT -5
Magnolia, just like real Augusta needs to have a lot of practice rounds on it to find out "where" to hit the shots. You cant go pin hunting on that course, you need to play to spots and let the greens do their jobs and funnel the ball to hole. And if you miss sometimes, just like IRL augusta, you are dead to rights and looking at a bogey.
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Post by ed68bogus on Feb 5, 2015 10:43:56 GMT -5
I've toyed with this question for some time now and now follow a process with a few tricks I discovered myself, not saying its perfect but it has improved my success rate on the longer puts. - First I switch to zoom mode and pan to an overhead shot to give me first impression of the gradients and a rough idea of run of the putt
- I then zoom down low so the camera is just behind the ball and slowly zoom forward towards the hole for another perspective
- I then go back to shot mode and take aim and repeat step 2, this gives me a more accurate assessment still
- I return to shot mode and make any further amendments
- My last (and latest trick) is to return again to zoom mode but hover above and behind my golfer and asses the run of the ball back from the hole towards the golfer and magically it seems to tell me whether I'm over or under estimating the line. For putts greater than approx. 5 yrds (15ft) I mentally split the shot in two using the grid as a guide and assess in two halfs i.e. if the last half doesn't align with the first half then it ain't going anywhere near.
- Sometimes I will enter zoom mode and rotate so I am looking back at the golfer from behind the hole, you sometimes see a lag that you hadn't previously.
It's worth noting (although I'm sure you already know) it is important to view your putt prior to making any aiming adjustments as well as after especially for step 2.
All that said I'm still lipping out but I rarely leave a knee trembler for that save...
Hope this helps.
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Post by Brighttail on Feb 12, 2015 14:24:50 GMT -5
I want to know Doyley's formula. How many clicks left/right do you have for each grid that has the slope indicator moving a grid in 2 seconds, 3, seconds, 5 seconds?  |
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Post by ProjectM4yhem23 on Feb 12, 2015 15:36:13 GMT -5
5 seconds....that's how long you would be allowed to live after he told you....
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Post by Brighttail on Feb 12, 2015 17:27:34 GMT -5
5 seconds....that's how long you would be allowed to live after he told you.... Bah, he is here to tell us all his secrets so we can be as good as him someday! Just will cost us all $19.99 |
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Post by Doyley on Feb 12, 2015 20:41:33 GMT -5
Doyley or anyone...a course like Magnolia that is being played on the lggt this week. When you have a downhill 25 footer 8" downhill breaker. Very, very fast greens. What is your thinking when faced with one of these? I took it down to 11 feet and still went by the hole by 8' and I played 7-8 feet of break. Do you still try to power through the break or what? These are the fastest greens I have played. Sorry I missed this Powering through the break works best on uphill or flat putts. For this situation I would be playing for a 2-putt and just lag it up as close as possible. If you took it down to 11 feet and were still 8 feet past, it's likely the power you set was still a little strong. I would have set for 15 feet in this situation (with the very fast greens) but would take extra caution to not overpower the ball. |
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Post by Doyley on Feb 12, 2015 20:42:47 GMT -5
I want to know Doyley's formula. How many clicks left/right do you have for each grid that has the slope indicator moving a grid in 2 seconds, 3, seconds, 5 seconds? Ha, I only have a formula for power - the rest is just visualizing the putt and putting the marker in the right spot. |
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Post by mcbogga on Feb 12, 2015 21:53:40 GMT -5
5 seconds....that's how long you would be allowed to live after he told you.... Bah, he is here to tell us all his secrets so we can be as good as him someday! Just will cost us all $19.99 The greens are dynamic - not a series of grid squares with uniform slope. This is why everyone got tricked on a couple of holes at Jebel on euro your a couple of weeks back Loved it. Hope HB succeeds with making the wind terrain dependent as well to add to the feel component of the game. Any cluck approach on the greens would be very much ballpark only. But good luck on your quest to turn the game into an elementary math competition... |
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Post by Brighttail on Feb 12, 2015 22:04:04 GMT -5
Bah, he is here to tell us all his secrets so we can be as good as him someday! Just will cost us all $19.99 The greens are dynamic - not a series of grid squares with uniform slope. This is why everyone got tricked on a couple of holes at Jebel on euro your a couple of weeks back Loved it. Hope HB succeeds with making the wind terrain dependent as well to add to the feel component of the game. Any cluck approach on the greens would be very much ballpark only. But good luck on your quest to turn the game into an elementary math competition... That is good then, makes you want to practice the course. I found a couple on The Bavaro that looked where it didn't break at all when other places it did. It was weird. |
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Post by splittailace on Feb 27, 2015 14:17:23 GMT -5
I've been trying to figure out a trick to reading the breaks. There has got to be a way to get it down to 1s and 0s. I'm trying to use the blocks in the grid to place my marker. Say a right to left putt with the beads moving at a medium pace. I'll put my marker on the first grid line to the right of the hole. For less break speed I might put it half way between the hole and the first grid line to the right.. A faster break speed and I might put the marker a quarter of the way into the next grid block past the first line to the right.
I'm basically trying to break the reads up into 1/4s of a grid block.
Sometimes I shoot -15 sometimes I shoot -6 using this method. Lately, as my wgr will indicate, this method isn't working. I miss soooo many putts that lip the edge or roll around the edge of the cup, extremely frustrating because I would say my GIR is nearly 100% for my career.
There has got to be a method to using the speed of the beads on the green grid to judge the break. A timer, a formula, something.
Thoughts?
Let's setup a study group lol
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Post by Brionne on Feb 28, 2015 3:15:11 GMT -5
Putting is by far the strongest part of my game.. and it's the only part of the game I don't use maths for.. I don't even adjust the distance meter up or down.. just aim for the break and swing.. A complete feel thing..
I did try to create a formula for putting.. I don't think is possible.. There are just too many variables to consider over the length of the put..
Conclusion: Practice, practice, practice
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Post by splittailace on Mar 3, 2015 14:47:09 GMT -5
I practice a ton. Probably have played 1000 rounds. I just don't get the putting. I'm completely inconsistent from round to round. I putted great in Q School but since then it's just not the same. I've tried aiming 4 ft past, 3 ft past, etc. love this game but damn the flat stick...
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