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Post by smurfblade88 on Sept 30, 2017 8:39:31 GMT -5
I'm guessing this thread will be gone by the time any of the admins wake up... Probably but it damn well shouldnt be. Thats pretty strong evidence provided above... It's not the first time it's been provided. Brushed under the carpet the 1st time. |
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Post by Moe Slorkman on Sept 30, 2017 8:47:45 GMT -5
Try not to get myself banned here .......
I can confirm the following
This has been reported properly apparently by more than one person.
I did know about it and am frustrated nothing has happened I also have reported this correctly
It's a kick in the balls knowing there's dirty players some of which are well respected and pretty damn good at the game.
Unfortunately Sweeney is clean to the best of my knowledge 😂
Finally there's much more evidence that's been submitted correctly To my knowledge there's definitely more than what you have seen here.
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Post by mcbogga on Sept 30, 2017 9:10:36 GMT -5
Of course this doesnt say anything about the reviewergroup as a whole. Just that this cheating douchebag happened to be part of it. Im expecting swift and correct actions from the admins on this one:
- lifetime ban for the cheater
- removal of his courses from the course database
- A public statement on these actions and their reason.
Anything else would severely hurt the integrity of this site as lack of action here is the same as approving of cheating.
The evidence here is very solid. Anyone who has something against the user could have posted cheats in his name, but seems it has been investigated further and checks out.
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Post by paulus on Sept 30, 2017 9:16:10 GMT -5
Personally, I'm not sure evidence and investigation should be public - can lead to a proliferation of false accusations and hamper the investigation process.
Once a private accusation has been brought - due process given - and a judgement made... at that point I think everything should be published.
This is how it's done in real life justice system - for some very good reasons. And why I called for a simple locked thread ban list many moons ago.
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Post by dorksirjur on Sept 30, 2017 9:24:08 GMT -5
Doing God's work gents, shame nothing happened when I brought it forward a while back.
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Post by SmilingGoats on Sept 30, 2017 9:36:31 GMT -5
We've been working with HB to add additional parameters to the API that will help us to detect scripts. This is an on-going process but we did receive the first bit of this information just 48 hours ago on PC. It will be available to us on console after the next update.
As far as the user/reviewer, he doesn't really play tournaments. He's only played in one since we were made aware of his involvement in creating scripts and he definitely did not use it in the event he played in. I'm certain of that based on his API data.
Unless we catch him cheating on our tours, I'm not sure we have any grounds to ban him based on his activity off-site. In the meantime, we'd prefer to get the data in place so we have actual proof of cheating before banning someone. We'd actually like to see the data from someone we know is cheating to compare. But, me thinks that won't be happening now.
We prefer not to broadcast this information publicly just as we do not publicly release information of known glitches until they are patched. Instead, we work with HB to get things fixed. The more people that know about these things, the more we have worry about unscrupulous people taking advantage.
So I'm sorry to those who feel that we have done nothing. It isn't that we've done nothing, its that the long-play here is to get to a point where we can detect script usage.
Now that this is public, we will re-discuss our strategy.
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Post by dorksirjur on Sept 30, 2017 9:42:59 GMT -5
Its the fact the scripts are still there, Goats, he's just changed his name to try and cover his tracks. He's shite at TGC, give a damn bout that.
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Post by SmilingGoats on Sept 30, 2017 9:45:45 GMT -5
Sorry, Chris. I'm not clear on what you're suggesting.
We can't get rid of the scripts...we have no control over that site. If we ban him, the scripts aren't going away.
Best course of action that can see is to try to detect them.
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Post by dorksirjur on Sept 30, 2017 9:49:18 GMT -5
I know ya can't stop them being up there, but the man's still here despite obviously trying to beat the API, as shown in the screenshots and the other one I have which hasn't been posted. But you guys do what ya gonna do, glad its finally public. I didn't drop it as I believed Doyley was taking care of it but nothing changed so here we are.
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Post by Moe Slorkman on Sept 30, 2017 9:49:59 GMT -5
If the 1,2,7,20 people that reported these people where updated in a positive manner I'm sure this wouldn't of happened.
I know the response I got and I wasn't happy about it and seeing this info coming to light honestly made me happy someone decided to do something.
Now if I We they had known there was a resolution coming I'm sure mouths would of stayed shut.
I've known for months and as far as I'm aware the admins have for longer and personally I've heard nothing since I submitted my grievance.
Anyway bright side is there's light at the end of the tunnel
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Post by SmilingGoats on Sept 30, 2017 9:50:41 GMT -5
Well, as I said, it would have been nice to have him use that so we could see the data, but he didn't.
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