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Post by Doyley on Sept 26, 2017 0:06:02 GMT -5
Sorry, do you mean that whenever someone jumps into the hottest players/top 50 WGR, they automatically go to PGA+? Or does it only happen when someone from PGA+ is demoted, that the top ranked person on the hottest player moves up? At the end of every week we'll look at the hottest players in the last 5 weeks - if anyone has over 200 WGR points in that column and isn't on PGA+, they will be promoted. That 200 point requirement will likely ease off a bit after we get a couple weeks into the season and we get a good feel for where the top players in PGA Tour are getting to. Same in January with WGR - after WGR is updated, anyone inside the Top 50 that isn't PGA+, will automatically be promoted there. So this means a win on the PGA Tour does not mean instant promotion to PGA+. You need prolonged good play to be moved up. |
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Post by Doyley on Sept 26, 2017 0:07:58 GMT -5
Ooh, I know what I need to ask. When determining where to place players in the new tour setup for Season 4, how do inactive players play in this? Some may have just given up on the new game and still rank somewhat high from tgc1 play. Inactive players will count in the Top 70 WGR for PGA Tour. Obviously I doubt any inactives will be in the Top 70 Hottest Players |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 0:09:16 GMT -5
I did notice the irony of the Top 10 WGR automatically getting into PGA+ and then the top 40 on the hottest players list. Doyley: WGR current rank of 11. Doyley: Hottest player rank of 58 (If you take out the Top 10 already on this list, then 51) Hmmmm.... Sorry, Doyley I gotta give ammo to the tin-foil crowd soon to wake up.  Is Brian May going to play though or will he be removed and #11 put in instead? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 0:09:48 GMT -5
Sorry, do you mean that whenever someone jumps into the hottest players/top 50 WGR, they automatically go to PGA+? Or does it only happen when someone from PGA+ is demoted, that the top ranked person on the hottest player moves up? At the end of every week we'll look at the hottest players in the last 5 weeks - if anyone has over 200 WGR points in that column and isn't on PGA+, they will be promoted. That 200 point requirement will likely ease off a bit after we get a couple weeks into the season and we get a good feel for where the top players in PGA Tour are getting to.Same in January with WGR - after WGR is updated, anyone inside the Top 50 that isn't PGA+, will automatically be promoted there. So this means a win on the PGA Tour does not mean instant promotion to PGA+. You need prolonged good play to be moved up. The fixing on how many WGR points the new PGA Tour gets will be a tough balancing act. That will be the "fulcrum" as it were to base the other top tours initially. But in the end.. after Jan 2018 arrives it will divert to WGR alone. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 0:11:06 GMT -5
Ooh, I know what I need to ask. When determining where to place players in the new tour setup for Season 4, how do inactive players play in this? Some may have just given up on the new game and still rank somewhat high from tgc1 play. Inactive players will count in the Top 70 WGR for PGA Tour. Obviously I doubt any inactives will be in the Top 70 Hottest Players But it is actually 41-110. Yeah, still understand your point. Maybe they played one or two events, didn't like that they couldn't top ten and left. That will be sorted over time. |
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Post by Doyley on Sept 26, 2017 0:12:29 GMT -5
I really don’t want to be bouncing around. Would it be possible to commit to the elite tour if you made it there for the season if you wanted to? You just need a top 25 finish in 4-5 weeks to clear strikes - pretty sure most PGA+ players are capable of that - I'm not opposed to moving it either if it's not balanced (to say top 30 to clear strikes)Also, who would qualify for the majors apart from the guys on the elite tour (it’s what everyone is calling it, might as well embrace it) PGA Tour will backfill depending on field size - will help these players accumulate enough WGR points to promote to PGA+ |
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Post by Doyley on Sept 26, 2017 0:13:55 GMT -5
How will Q-School card determination be changed? Will PGA+ be ineligible? If so, will all tours below PGA+ be available out of the gate, or will Euro be the cap or even Web? Yes, PGA+ will be ineligible All tours outside of PGA+ and CC-Z will be eligible out of Q-School |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 0:18:03 GMT -5
New PGA+ name idea: The Fragile Egos Tour  |
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Post by Doyley on Sept 26, 2017 0:20:05 GMT -5
But in the end.. after Jan 2018 arrives it will divert to WGR alone. Think if I understand your thought correctly, it is incorrect. Come January there will be two methods to get to PGA+. Both WGR and Hottest Players will be active at the same time. For example, a new guy on the scene with 5 great events might not crack the Top 50 yet but could qualify via the Hottest Player route and deserve promotion. |
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Post by Doyley on Sept 26, 2017 0:20:51 GMT -5
New PGA+ name idea: The Fragile Egos Tour I'm sure in the morning we'll get a few suggestions that don't include any letters, just symbols like #,@, % and $ |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 0:22:03 GMT -5
But in the end.. after Jan 2018 arrives it will divert to WGR alone. Think if I understand your thought correctly, it is incorrect. Come January there will be two methods to get to PGA+. Both WGR and Hottest Players will be active at the same time. For example, a new guy on the scene with 5 great events might not crack the Top 50 yet but could qualify via the Hottest Player route and deserve promotion. Right. Had to digest a lot and forgot about that. Think eventually the 70 player high end thing might be harder to maintain than the 50 low end. But who knows. Why you try it out, right? |
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Post by Knock25Out on Sept 26, 2017 0:23:51 GMT -5
But in the end.. after Jan 2018 arrives it will divert to WGR alone. Think if I understand your thought correctly, it is incorrect. Come January there will be two methods to get to PGA+. Both WGR and Hottest Players will be active at the same time. For example, a new guy on the scene with 5 great events might not crack the Top 50 yet but could qualify via the Hottest Player route and deserve promotion. Thought it said in OP that you had to have 200 WGR points, right now only top 60 in WGR or so have that many points, will it be easier to get to 200 with the realignment? EDIT: should have read more above, carry on |
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Post by Doyley on Sept 26, 2017 0:25:38 GMT -5
Think if I understand your thought correctly, it is incorrect. Come January there will be two methods to get to PGA+. Both WGR and Hottest Players will be active at the same time. For example, a new guy on the scene with 5 great events might not crack the Top 50 yet but could qualify via the Hottest Player route and deserve promotion. Thought it said in OP that you had to have 200 WGR points, right now only top 60 in WGR or so have that many points, will it be easier to get to 200 with the realignment? Currently that is only 3 weeks worth of points - but also 2 weeks worth of WGC level points. We still have one more WGC level and one major level for points before you get the full 5 week total. So after 5 weeks it'll be inflated a bit over normal - which is why I'm going to start high before settling it into a spot that makes sense. EDIT: I'm assuming you are talking about the Hottest Players/Last 5 Weeks point total. But you may be talking about total WGR points which is not what the qualification is looking at. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 0:27:52 GMT -5
Thought it said in OP that you had to have 200 WGR points, right now only top 60 in WGR or so have that many points, will it be easier to get to 200 with the realignment? Currently that is only 3 weeks worth of points - but also 2 weeks worth of WGC level points. We still have one more WGC level and one major level for points before you get the full 5 week total. So after 5 weeks it'll be inflated a lot over normal - which is why I'm going to start high before settling it into a spot that makes sense. Fixed that for you. But yeah, understood why you need to step that down over time as "regular" events come into play in S4. All the more to properly place the proper WGR to the "new" PGA as 200 or whatever it turns out to be is a milestone. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 0:28:39 GMT -5
I really don’t want to be bouncing around. Would it be possible to commit to the elite tour if you made it there for the season if you wanted to? You just need a top 25 finish in 4-5 weeks to clear strikes - pretty sure most PGA+ players are capable of that - I'm not opposed to moving it either if it's not balanced (to say top 30 to clear strikes)Also, who would qualify for the majors apart from the guys on the elite tour (it’s what everyone is calling it, might as well embrace it) PGA Tour will backfill depending on field size - will help these players accumulate enough WGR points to promote to PGA+Isn't there the potential that the PGA Tour will become extremely bloated if theres not going to be much movent into the PGA+, but players keep getting exemptions from the Euro? |
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