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Post by rod81simo on May 23, 2015 2:25:37 GMT -5
The idea was for the flights rather than the euro/pga. I've just read a few posts here and there in the lower tiers along the lines of "how's he/she in our tier shooting that low, I'm not getting out of this what I wanted". I for one am happy the way it is, just throwing an idea out there to get people in their correct tier quicker. Seems it's gone down like a sh%$ sandwich though :-p Anyways there is a change coming soon so it will be interesting to see. Ha I wouldn't say that. Suggesting ideas helps grow TGCT. The guys have proven how adaptive they are to our needs and take on board all suggestions so if you've got an idea the best thing to do is speak up like you decided upon doing so well done on that. It's tricky with the lower tiers as it doesn't take much to go from shooting around par to then figuring something out and going from par to say -6 to -9 a round. With no real tutorial or instructions to go off the game is all about experience and knowing what shot to play in what circumstance one finds themself in and so you'll find that someone will shoot lights out week in week out down in the lower tiers. There definately isn't those blowout wins in the upper tiers that are seen down lower and not sure of a way to eradicate it either. I think if you find you are only ever going to be good enough for a certain tier then you should aim to get as high as you can in the year long standings and rate yourself that way as opposed to week in week out as the better players will just be moving on up and not factor in the year long title fight, and also hope for some strong finishes as you go along and who knows maybe win one eventually
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 2:33:26 GMT -5
Here's a question just out of curiosity. Would I be higher in the world rankings if I played in C? I tend to finish around 40th in B with zero chance of winning so maybe top 20s in C. I should hope not and I wouldn't want to drop down because I always want to be in the highest tier I can.
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Post by rod81simo on May 23, 2015 2:38:55 GMT -5
Here's a question just out of curiosity. Would I be higher in the world rankings if I played in C? I tend to finish around 40th in B with zero chance of winning so maybe top 20s in C. I should hope not and I wouldn't want to drop down because I always want to be in the highest tier I can. Not sure but you could definately work it out roughly by taking a sample of the last 5 tourney results or so and then seeing where your scores have placed you or would place you and work out the points for such a finish which have been mentioned somewhere for all the tours... Something like 100% of points for PGA/Euro 90% Web A 80% Web B or whatever it is and so forth. Would be interesting. Not sure of a 40th result would mean a 20th finish on the rung below but would be interesting. With the way the points are dished out I would say that a 40th position on A would be equivalent to say a 50th on B or so. I think it filters down well on paper but maybe do some research and see what you find
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Post by kelly on May 23, 2015 5:33:06 GMT -5
My reasoning for this post was that people that finished q school were designated to their class for tour... But if you look at everyone a scores weekly Top 10% move up bottom 10% move down ... Last week 7 people would have moved up to champ a. From champ b ... And 10 people would have moved down ... I love the tour ,, just trying to suggest on a way to where the tours level out faster and more even ... Just my 2 cents lol ..
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 6:33:58 GMT -5
I found a post saying web-b get 50% and web-c get 40% of top tiers points allocated and worked out from there for my 5 tournaments so far as to how many points I'd have and then divided by 40 because that's the min events if I'm correct.
Playing in web-b = 0.375 Web-c = 0.46
So I'd have more points if I were in the rung below I reckon. Also, there must be a strength of field multiplier to it because my actual ranking points are 0.4485. Still, I believe I would be ranked higher in the world if I were playing in web-c which feels a bit backwards to me. Any who, all a waste of time as changes are coming in June anyway haha. Was interesting to work out though.
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Post by rod81simo on May 23, 2015 8:30:35 GMT -5
I found a post saying web-b get 50% and web-c get 40% of top tiers points allocated and worked out from there for my 5 tournaments so far as to how many points I'd have and then divided by 40 because that's the min events if I'm correct. Playing in web-b = 0.375 Web-c = 0.46 So I'd have more points if I were in the rung below I reckon. Also, there must be a strength of field multiplier to it because my actual ranking points are 0.4485. Still, I believe I would be ranked higher in the world if I were playing in web-c which feels a bit backwards to me. Any who, all a waste of time as changes are coming in June anyway haha. Was interesting to work out though. So if you put your -12 on web b that put you 40th where would the same score have gotten you on web c. After all it's the same course just a different leaderboard of scores. Your assumption earlier was around 20th. Is it really that much higher up on web c?
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 9:11:44 GMT -5
Centennial: B (69th) C (62nd) PGA West: B (75th) C (49th) Canterberry: B (57th) C (41st) Atherstone: B (44th) C (21st) Soggy Bottom: B (24th) C (11th)
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Post by edi_vedder on May 23, 2015 19:46:30 GMT -5
Also, there must be a strength of field multiplier to it because... There most certainly is such a multiplier. Just can not find the official posting right now to quote it...
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Post by CTLegacy on May 24, 2015 0:25:28 GMT -5
Also, there must be a strength of field multiplier to it because... There most certainly is such a multiplier. Just can not find the official posting right now to quote it... I asked about this and here's the answer I got. tgctours.proboards.com/post/35425
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Post by gibson55 on May 29, 2015 11:40:05 GMT -5
I think if you win 3 events on Champ flight or web Flight. You should be bumped to euro/pga. The scores in each flight tournamnent are almost the Same now. So No point going theough champ b to A then climb the web c,b,a. 3 wins next flight. Just my thoughts. And open pga/euro to more people if need be. Its better tham having high caliber players on low calibre flights
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Post by eMLBCommish on May 29, 2015 14:08:01 GMT -5
I think if you win 3 events on Champ flight or web Flight. You should be bumped to euro/pga. The scores in each flight tournamnent are almost the Same now. So No point going theough champ b to A then climb the web c,b,a. 3 wins next flight. Just my thoughts. And open pga/euro to more people if need be. Its better tham having high caliber players on low calibre flights With your logic, why bother having anything but a PGA/Euro Tour? We're all equal in your eyes! So this week's current results mean the PGA Tour has weaker players? Maybe the course factors in? I don't expect to make cuts at -2 or -9 in PGA/Euro, but I'll attest that to the Courses being played, intended to be most challenging for those with those Tour Cards. First, I see too many people shell shocked out of Q-School into the Top flights, and we just fix this. Now there's too much top talent in the trenches. This is all confusing to me.
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Post by gibson55 on May 29, 2015 15:21:32 GMT -5
People shooting 56"s 63"s every round of every tournamnet have played the game enough to be in the top flight. Not in the 3 worst flight.
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Post by CTLegacy on May 29, 2015 22:05:36 GMT -5
Ok so go ahead and try the US open qualifier and tell me if you make the top 50. Then if you do then you deserve to be at least in Web A. The system in place I feel is fair and works for everyone. The reason the winning scores are all the same (they arent) is because the champ tour is on a easy as heck course, web is on a easy course sometimes, a hardish one sometimes and PGA/Eu is usually on a very difficult course that your 63 would barely break 70.
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Post by gibson55 on May 30, 2015 8:49:13 GMT -5
Ok so go ahead and try the US open qualifier and tell me if you make the top 50. Then if you do then you deserve to be at least in Web A. The system in place I feel is fair and works for everyone. The reason the winning scores are all the same (they arent) is because the champ tour is on a easy as heck course, web is on a easy course sometimes, a hardish one sometimes and PGA/Eu is usually on a very difficult course that your 63 would barely break 70. . What are you talking about. Im talking about people shooting low scores on low flights . Im right where i belong. But the people atop the leaderboard shooting 58s on web C do not belong on web flight at all. Same goes for champ flight people who shot +40 or whatever it was somehow manage to shoot 58-63 . I dont understand how the admins dont see that. Start allowing more People on pga instead of clogging up the lower flight with misplaced talent.
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Post by eMLBCommish on May 31, 2015 6:57:03 GMT -5
Ok so go ahead and try the US open qualifier and tell me if you make the top 50. Then if you do then you deserve to be at least in Web A. The system in place I feel is fair and works for everyone. The reason the winning scores are all the same (they arent) is because the champ tour is on a easy as heck course, web is on a easy course sometimes, a hardish one sometimes and PGA/Eu is usually on a very difficult course that your 63 would barely break 70. . What are you talking about. Im talking about people shooting low scores on low flights . Im right where i belong. But the people atop the leaderboard shooting 58s on web C do not belong on web flight at all. Same goes for champ flight people who shot +40 or whatever it was somehow manage to shoot 58-63 . I dont understand how the admins dont see that. Start allowing more People on pga instead of clogging up the lower flight with misplaced talent. Again, assumptions are being made. There's already enough new talent weekly on the Top Tiers (Trust me, I'm playing them). The sponsor exemptions are there for a reason. I'm about ready to break out Chewbacca on his squirrel fighting the Nazis in this situation.
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