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Post by batfunk on Sept 11, 2021 17:02:20 GMT -5
Maybe i'm Alone with this philosophy but i love simulation, i want to compare with real life golf.If you set the same difficult course for every one, it Will be like in real life. Best ones Will be well under par, worst ones Will be far over par, it doesn't prevent promotions, you can have the lowest division with a cut at +20. Sure, it Will Hurt some egos, especially those Who can't live without making birdie at each hole(yeah, i play daily with some lol). If you want to progress, Just train ! With Master swing, easy challenge tour courses were Just ok.With pro swing, even the weakest player on Earth Will be under par.-10 per round is not golf, it's boredom. But it's really not like real life. They don't play the Korn Ferry Tour event each week at the same course that hosts the PGA Tour event... You understood me, tgctours should not be an arcade game. Tgctours team introduced Master swing Last year to give tour à competitive edge. Pro swing is a huge step back.
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Post by hammers1man on Sept 11, 2021 17:09:50 GMT -5
Just for fun, here's how the top scores look in the Special Event Test on PS4 and Xbox - I know this is a pretty small sample size, but I was curious as to how the leaderboards differed: PS4: -22 -18 -16 -16 -16 -16 -15 -15 -14 -14 -14 Xbox: -6 -5 -5 -5 -1 -1 +1 +2 +3 +6 At this point, only 11 people have played the event on Xbox, while 35 have played on PS. 28 of the 35 PS users are under par for the event. Please tell me those are 4 round total scores
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 11, 2021 17:10:40 GMT -5
Better to use the ladder system to actually get promoted to compare yourself against better players, surely? There needs to be a difficult spread for all, otherwise, where’s the entry? Maybe i'm Alone with this philosophy but i love simulation, i want to compare with real life golf.If you set the same difficult course for every one, it Will be like in real life. Best ones Will be well under par, worst ones Will be far over par, it doesn't prevent promotions, you can have the lowest division with a cut at +20. Sure, it Will Hurt some egos, especially those Who can't live without making birdie at each hole(yeah, i play daily with some lol). If you want to progress, Just train ! With Master swing, easy challenge tour courses were Just ok.With pro swing, even the weakest player on Earth Will be under par.-10 per round is not golf, it's boredom. If we all play the same course then that loses available slots for designers to get their courses on tour. That surely can't be a good thing. If you can simulate real golf with a controller with a little stick then fair play. To me the control method alone makes it a game not a sim. Your final point is complete rubbish. Have a look at the Beer League results for last season. At Pro swing. Courses on the easier side. Always many players over par each tournament. Not everyone has your ability.
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Post by sroel908 on Sept 11, 2021 17:13:10 GMT -5
Just for fun, here's how the top scores look in the Special Event Test on PS4 and Xbox - I know this is a pretty small sample size, but I was curious as to how the leaderboards differed: PS4: -22 -18 -16 -16 -16 -16 -15 -15 -14 -14 -14 Xbox: -6 -5 -5 -5 -1 -1 +1 +2 +3 +6 At this point, only 11 people have played the event on Xbox, while 35 have played on PS. 28 of the 35 PS users are under par for the event. Please tell me those are 4 round total scores Two rounds.
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Post by sroel908 on Sept 11, 2021 17:16:49 GMT -5
But it's really not like real life. They don't play the Korn Ferry Tour event each week at the same course that hosts the PGA Tour event... You understood me, tgctours should not be an arcade game. Tgctours team introduced Master swing Last year to give tour à competitive edge. Pro swing is a huge step back. All tours, outside of Beer League, used Master last year...I guess I am unsure of what you're saying. I was addressing your point that all tours should play on the same course with the same setup. If I'm in CC, I do not want to play Platinum courses and setups each week. I'd probably quit pretty quick - there'd be a lot of frustration since I'm just not good enough to enjoy playing four rounds on a firm, fast, undulating course with high winds and such. And I 100% agree with SkyBlueBen about having all courses play on one course each week limiting the number of courses that would make the tours. That would really cause lots of great courses to miss out on the chance to host a tour event, and would really be a disappointing thing to hear as a course designer.
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Post by hammers1man on Sept 11, 2021 17:23:54 GMT -5
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Post by xvshitanvx on Sept 11, 2021 17:24:05 GMT -5
Please tell me those are 4 round total scores Two rounds. The winner score was -44 during the season to give you a gauge. 2nd was -41, 3rd -38.
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Post by sroel908 on Sept 11, 2021 17:29:37 GMT -5
The winner score was -44 during the season to give you a gauge. 2nd was -41, 3rd -38. Thank you! Just did a bit more digging, too, and no Xbox users played that event in the season. A PS user won the event, and the -41 and -38 were achieved by PC users.
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 11, 2021 17:30:20 GMT -5
The winner score was -44 during the season to give you a gauge. 2nd was -41, 3rd -38. Winner (on PS4) was 20 under after 2 rounds. Was the set up the same as that for the test event Rounds 1 and 2 do you know? If so, there's not as much difference at Pro swing as I would have expected.
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Post by sroel908 on Sept 11, 2021 17:31:15 GMT -5
Ha! Someone did shoot a round of 58 I believe on PS4 in the Special Event test, which is a round of -14.
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Post by xvshitanvx on Sept 11, 2021 17:34:03 GMT -5
The winner score was -44 during the season to give you a gauge. 2nd was -41, 3rd -38. Winner (on PS4) was 20 under after 2 rounds. Was the set up the same as that for the test event Rounds 1 and 2 do you know? If so, there's not as much difference at Pro swing as I would have expected. Not sure. Haven’t played the event yet. Bare in mind how many top players have actually played this event before considering scores are similar. Doesn’t seem like many have teed up in the test events so far.
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 11, 2021 17:36:45 GMT -5
Winner (on PS4) was 20 under after 2 rounds. Was the set up the same as that for the test event Rounds 1 and 2 do you know? If so, there's not as much difference at Pro swing as I would have expected. Not sure. Haven’t played the event yet. Bare in mind how many top players have actually played this event before considering scores are similar. Doesn’t seem like many have teed up in the test events so far. That's the problem without being able to see the names. You Platinum players will be better judges of how things sit. As someone who I can say with 100% certainty will never reach the heights of a Pro Tour I'm just an interested observer. My only hope is that everyone can find a way to enjoy Season 8.
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Post by gatorman on Sept 11, 2021 17:39:07 GMT -5
Just for fun, here's how the top scores look in the Special Event Test on PS4 and Xbox - I know this is a pretty small sample size, but I was curious as to how the leaderboards differed: PS4: -22 -18 -16 -16 -16 -16 -15 -15 -14 -14 -14 Xbox: -6 -5 -5 -5 -1 -1 +1 +2 +3 +6 At this point, only 11 people have played the event on Xbox, while 35 have played on PS. 28 of the 35 PS users are under par for the event. All this tells me is the change to Pro swing is a wash. Xbox still can't compete. Kind of like getting a pay raise with inflation eating away most of it.
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Post by booze2407 on Sept 11, 2021 17:43:09 GMT -5
Not sure. Haven’t played the event yet. Bare in mind how many top players have actually played this event before considering scores are similar. Doesn’t seem like many have teed up in the test events so far. That's the problem without being able to see the names. You Platinum players will be better judges of how things sit. As someone who I can say with 100% certainty will never reach the heights of a Pro Tour I'm just an interested observer. My only hope is that everyone can find a way to enjoy Season 8. When I looked at the leaderboard, PeskyPeanut was the -22. For comparison, I checked last season and he was -9 after 2. Thats a substantial difference I would say. He beat his 4 round total by 5 strokes...in 2 rounds.
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 11, 2021 17:50:19 GMT -5
That's the problem without being able to see the names. You Platinum players will be better judges of how things sit. As someone who I can say with 100% certainty will never reach the heights of a Pro Tour I'm just an interested observer. My only hope is that everyone can find a way to enjoy Season 8. When I looked at the leaderboard, PeskyPeanut was the -22. For comparison, I checked last season and he was -9 after 2. Thats a substantial difference I would say. He beat his 4 round total by 5 strokes...in 2 rounds. So 13 shots better over 2 rounds. I'm down in CC-G and I'd say Pro to Master I'm running at 6/7 shots per round better (roughly, not got a direct comparison to work with). But then we all knew the scores would go through the roof a bit. Should make the Platinum division pretty cut throat! What we're not seeing is the leader on his way to 70 under as some were suggesting.
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