mike
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Post by mike on Apr 21, 2015 16:16:07 GMT -5
If this game is going to have a long life span, how will the makers make any money? What's their motivation to continue supporting this game for the long hall?
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Andy Tracy
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Post by Andy Tracy on Apr 21, 2015 16:22:16 GMT -5
Again, the WGR is in it's infancy - people that have played the whole season are likely to have a higher ranking than those joining midway - it's not the best indicator at this point in time - it's just a guide. In time, when everyone fills out their events played, the WGR will become more accurate. The flights in general are very close in skill level - there's not much difference between web C and Web A - so the fact the leaders aren't that far off doesn't surprise me in the least. Will the system ever move from the aggregate points to mimic the real WGR which uses adjusted average per event?
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gibson55
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Post by gibson55 on Apr 21, 2015 17:29:07 GMT -5
If this game is going to have a long life span, how will the makers make any money? What's their motivation to continue supporting this game for the long hall? What does this have to do with thread topic my friend
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Post by Doyley on Apr 21, 2015 18:34:23 GMT -5
Again, the WGR is in it's infancy - people that have played the whole season are likely to have a higher ranking than those joining midway - it's not the best indicator at this point in time - it's just a guide. In time, when everyone fills out their events played, the WGR will become more accurate. The flights in general are very close in skill level - there's not much difference between web C and Web A - so the fact the leaders aren't that far off doesn't surprise me in the least. Will the system ever move from the aggregate points to mimic the real WGR which uses adjusted average per event? Tim can answer that better than I - I don't want to speculate.
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vesiah
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Post by vesiah on Apr 22, 2015 1:26:38 GMT -5
Just an idea what if you took wgr out of champ flights that way guys like myself on champ b really have something to work towards. If we ever wanna get ranked we gotta move up or deal with the champ tours.
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Post by Tim on Apr 22, 2015 6:28:58 GMT -5
Again, the WGR is in it's infancy - people that have played the whole season are likely to have a higher ranking than those joining midway - it's not the best indicator at this point in time - it's just a guide. In time, when everyone fills out their events played, the WGR will become more accurate. The flights in general are very close in skill level - there's not much difference between web C and Web A - so the fact the leaders aren't that far off doesn't surprise me in the least. Will the system ever move from the aggregate points to mimic the real WGR which uses adjusted average per event? Working on this now... However it will be slightly flawed because the minimal divisor is supposed to be 40 events which we do not have. I'm trying to get it finished by next week's WGR run.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 7:26:58 GMT -5
The problem is you would have a guy completing Q-School that shoots amazingly well and is placed in Champs B just because he's given a poor WGR since he hasn't played yet. You would have far too many good players in the low end tours because of their lack of events played.
A lot of the people you see in the top 150-200 on the Web A and B haven't even won an event on their respective tours. They're only ranked highly cause they've made all their cuts with 5+ events played and maybe a couple top 10 finishes or so. Those same players would have almost no chance at making cuts on the PGA/Euro tours.
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gibson55
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Post by gibson55 on Apr 22, 2015 7:55:22 GMT -5
The problem is you would have a guy completing Q-School that shoots amazingly well and is placed in Champs B just because he's given a poor WGR since he hasn't played yet. You would have far too many good players in the low end tours because of their lack of events played. A lot of the people you see in the top 150-200 on the Web A and B haven't even won an event on their respective tours. They're only ranked highly cause they've made all their cuts with 5+ events played and maybe a couple top 10 finishes or so. Those same players would have almost no chance at making cuts on the PGA/Euro tours. . Q school would still determine. Your tour card. But after a certain number of events you would be moved to a Tour that best suits your playing skill. It ultimatly would cut out The problem bunch that stop advancement into higher tours because they are playing on champ tour and shouldbe in web a . Thus poaching top spots in tournaments at levels they should never be in. Love the game and this tour regardless. but i do get annoyed when people shoot super low when their skill level is of web c and champ tour quality. They are suppose to be below average Skill. So they shouldnt be consistently shooting low 60s.
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gibson55
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Post by gibson55 on Apr 22, 2015 8:00:00 GMT -5
The problem is you would have a guy completing Q-School that shoots amazingly well and is placed in Champs B just because he's given a poor WGR since he hasn't played yet. You would have far too many good players in the low end tours because of their lack of events played. A lot of the people you see in the top 150-200 on the Web A and B haven't even won an event on their respective tours. They're only ranked highly cause they've made all their cuts with 5+ events played and maybe a couple top 10 finishes or so. Those same players would have almost no chance at making cuts on the PGA/Euro tours. . Q school would still determine. Your tour card. But after a certain number of events you would be moved to a Tour that best suits your playing skill. It ultimatly would cut out The problem bunch that stop advancement into higher tours because they are playing on champ tour and shouldbe in web a . Thus poaching top spots in tournaments at levels they should never be in. Love the game and this tour regardless. but i do get annoyed when people shoot super low when their skill level is of web c and champ tour quality. They are suppose to be below average Skill. So they shouldnt be consistently shooting low 60s. [ The goal is to be as close to real life as possible. Some golfers will go a whole career not winning an event and are still on the pga tour. You woiuldnt see a top 100 playijg onnthe amateur tour because he hasnt won yet. Its about gettig on the pga tour and competing . And pga players miss the cut every event. Missing the cut is apart o the game and its your ranked 100-150 then your skill should be good enough to charge or better the cut line pretty easy. Great post.
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Post by NCFCRulz on Apr 22, 2015 8:05:02 GMT -5
. Q school would still determine. Your tour card. But after a certain number of events you would be moved to a Tour that best suits your playing skill. It ultimatly would cut out The problem bunch that stop advancement into higher tours because they are playing on champ tour and shouldbe in web a . Thus poaching top spots in tournaments at levels they should never be in. Love the game and this tour regardless. but i do get annoyed when people shoot super low when their skill level is of web c and champ tour quality. They are suppose to be below average Skill. So they shouldnt be consistently shooting low 60s. [ The goal is to be as close to real life as possible. Some golfers will go a whole career not winning an event and are still on the pga tour. You woiuldnt see a top 100 playijg onnthe amateur tour because he hasnt won yet. Its about gettig on the pga tour and competing . And pga players miss the cut every event. Missing the cut is apart o the game and its your ranked 100-150 then your skill should be good enough to charge or better the cut line pretty easy. Great post. You can't quote your own post and then at the end state great post lol I agree with Doyley. The best players in the world Irl start somewhere. If you are good enough to go up then you will. It's like football. bristol City have ruined Every team in league one this season and are well clear at the top however they still have to wait for the whole year for them to go up. It's just the way it works. If you took all the best players in the world and created a new team in the English leagues you would still have to be in each division for a year before going up. It's just part of sport
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gibson55
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Post by gibson55 on Apr 24, 2015 7:29:37 GMT -5
Great Idea.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 8:57:11 GMT -5
It'll all work itself out after 20 or so events. Its still In It's early days.
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Post by CTLegacy on Apr 24, 2015 21:37:29 GMT -5
Curious then how does the WGR work here? IS it the exact same as OWGR ? Do the TGCTour PGA champ get more points then a web B champ of the same week? I'm sure its an incredibly complicated system to replicate. But to me it seems since the strength of field is much harder in PGA then it is in Web B then PGA players would get more points and be a higher rating right?
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gibson55
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Post by gibson55 on Apr 25, 2015 8:26:01 GMT -5
It'll all work itself out after 20 or so events. Its still In It's early days. . I agree it will work out, but it you dont use WGR to place om tour. You will have people ranked in the top 100 on the fifth worst tour. Magority o the events on my tour web c are won by sub 300 ranked people in a tour that has mostly 700+ ranked people. And without sponsorhip exemptions as a mandatory action. They slow the pace of people actually tryin to earn a battlefield promotion.
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Post by CTLegacy on Apr 25, 2015 16:03:07 GMT -5
Which Is why I am asking, it's 10th on the PGA worth the same as 10th in Web B ? Because that seems a little crazy. No one in web.com tour should be ranked in the top 200 even.
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