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Post by theduke21 on Jan 6, 2020 18:02:57 GMT -5
Playing the Euro event as a bit of practice makes me yearn for the days we had joint top tours tbh.
Whilst we're worrying that our ball is going to bounce 30 yards right into the wasteground plonked smack bang into the middle of the fairway the euro guys are playing a quality RCR that has been setup to be plenty challenging with zero trickery. Kudos to anyone who can shoot -18 over there this week.
I get that it's different strokes for different folks. Sometimes tracks like this are fun to play. But can't help but wonder if we've become so desensitized to the fantasy stuff that it would take an actual windmill on the green before some eyebrows were raised.Β
Iβll forever miss the joint tours.
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Post by Doyley on Jan 6, 2020 18:09:29 GMT -5
Joint tours were great for the top 5% and extremely frustrating for the bottom 50% of TGC1 PGA/Euro tour card holders. I can assure you the current Euro tour of 140+ people are having a much better time than if they were sharing it split between the top 10 players in this game.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 19:53:41 GMT -5
Are the 110 or so non top 10 players on the PGA Tour having a more enjoyable time though? Doesn't sound like it most weeks Bring back the World Tour and then have equal PGA and Euro underneath it that both feed into the WT. Just rotate the WT course between PGA and Euro each week
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Post by LFCallum on Jan 6, 2020 21:02:37 GMT -5
Can't be arsed with this. Was -25 through 2, pretty solid. Was struggling round 3 and was -7 going into the last. Had the ball on the green for a birdie putt, but hit it an inch too firm and it rolled off the green onto a retarded lie. Chipped back up, putt again, missed, rolled off. Club down, chip up, too short, rolls back down off the green. Lost count of how many times it happened. If you missed the hole at all then there was no hope of the ball staying on the green because of the very fast greens and the pin position. You would have to hit it 5 feet short deliberately. Ended up with a 10 on that hole, totally ruining my tournament because of the stupid pin positioning and green speed. Gonna play my final round so I don't get demo marks but I'm totally fed up.
Should definitely have waited a while before complaining so I could calm down but whatever. I know it's just a game and doesn't matter, just annoying when you put a lot of effort and concentration into something and it gets ruined, and there wasn't anything I could do about it.
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Post by Doyley on Jan 6, 2020 21:10:56 GMT -5
Are the 110 or so non top 10 players on the PGA Tour having a more enjoyable time though? Doesn't sound like it most weeks That's pretty much my point on why the joint top tours was abandoned...used to be 220 or so players not having an enjoyable time lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2020 0:51:15 GMT -5
Bring back the World Tour
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Post by Generic_Casual on Jan 7, 2020 10:08:36 GMT -5
Well, I played. ππ
If you can call it that. π π
The greens beat the piss out of me. ππ
More ghost-putts than TGC1. π²π²
Had about 5 bogies. π¬π¬
Probably 2 water balls. ππ
Managed to somehow get to -50. ππ
Not sure how or why. ππ
Glad it's over. ππ
Good luck! ππ
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Post by CuseHokie on Jan 7, 2020 13:23:18 GMT -5
I felt the green speeds were too fast at times for the sculpting and micro-tiering. I think 163 wouldβve been perfect.
My ball managed to stop at the crest of the ridge on 11 in R3. I had to tap 5 feet of pace 90 degrees from the pin. The ball rolled to the pin some 28 feet away and continued off the green another 30 feet.
In R4, the 144 played a little tool velcro where if you landed and rolled to a backstop, it got stuck at the yellow/green divide.
I struck the ball quite well but my putting was inconsistent after a 9 day layoff. πΆπ»
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Post by theduke21 on Jan 7, 2020 18:06:21 GMT -5
Wasn't meaning to start a tour debate, although I believe mostly everyone would agree on no world tour lol.
I get Doyley's point on people toward the bottom of the tour not having a good time but I felt like certain tours would have stronger fields on certain weeks and those players could try to stay in the smaller events. Think it's cool for double the amount of people to consider themselves on the top tour too.
Mainly just said it to say I really miss the sense of community back in those days and the PGA vs. Euro thing was always a blast. Picking the course that fit your game was also nice. It also made the tournaments where all the top guys come together feel really cool.
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Post by Brighttail on Jan 7, 2020 18:53:41 GMT -5
Played my first golf in about 3 weeks so I was expecting an interesting time. For the most part I didn't have much problems with the greens. In fact I made quite a few par saving putts from 20+ feet, including an extreme downhill, side hill bender on #2 that if it hadn't gone in, would have been well off the green. Some really good shots, some really bad shots. -18 overall. I have no clue if that makes the cut as round 2 was harder than the first. My gut tells me I'm just outside the cutline.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2020 20:11:58 GMT -5
Wasn't meaning to start a tour debate, although I believe mostly everyone would agree on no world tour lol. I get Doyley's point on people toward the bottom of the tour not having a good time but I felt like certain tours would have stronger fields on certain weeks and those players could try to stay in the smaller events. Think it's cool for double the amount of people to consider themselves on the top tour too. Mainly just said it to say I really miss the sense of community back in those days and the PGA vs. Euro thing was always a blast. Picking the course that fit your game was also nice. It also made the tournaments where all the top guys come together feel really cool. Forget about Doyley ! You answer me once ! I'm mean (AC) and i'm Cool (DC)! Do you really want a answer ?
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Post by Brighttail on Jan 7, 2020 20:25:59 GMT -5
Wasn't meaning to start a tour debate, although I believe mostly everyone would agree on no world tour lol. I get Doyley's point on people toward the bottom of the tour not having a good time but I felt like certain tours would have stronger fields on certain weeks and those players could try to stay in the smaller events. Think it's cool for double the amount of people to consider themselves on the top tour too. Mainly just said it to say I really miss the sense of community back in those days and the PGA vs. Euro thing was always a blast. Picking the course that fit your game was also nice. It also made the tournaments where all the top guys come together feel really cool. Lets face it. In the most simplistic terms the margin of skill (be it flickers or non-flickers) at the the very top and the people who are continually fighting to just make a cut is often 10-20 strokes at times. It is frankly ridiculous. There are of course the outlying tournaments that I might make a top 15 in a fluke, but I know where my place is. For many of us pretty much the ONLY reason we play on the PGA tour, fighting to clear those strikes to stay on the tour isn't because we actually believe we can win, but to just qualify for the special events and the majors.
So my suggestion:
Make a WT for the super elite and put all those flickers up there and then make a PGA tour or PGA/Euro tour. There would be no cross over, for any other tournament but there would be ways to be promoted to the WT or demoted to the lower tour. The major difference is let this second level tour have their own major tournaments. Do this and I think you'd see many more folks giving up their dream of getting to the WT and be happy to play a major or fourl
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Post by Brighttail on Jan 7, 2020 20:32:07 GMT -5
Joint tours were great for the top 5% and extremely frustrating for the bottom 50% of TGC1 PGA/Euro tour card holders. I can assure you the current Euro tour of 140+ people are having a much better time than if they were sharing it split between the top 10 players in this game. Now the tour is great for top 5 % and frustrating for the bottom 50%. I'm not sure what has changed?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2020 20:38:56 GMT -5
Euh, flicking Ron ? You flick what right now, a MGM , Mouse Golf Mouser's society ?
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Post by SweetTeeBag on Jan 7, 2020 20:55:41 GMT -5
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