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Post by tenbobnote on Jan 2, 2020 2:30:03 GMT -5
Just for the record- I wasn't supporting someone with 3DQs- I was just giving Burton a nudge in order to get an excuse to show off my new video. I still enjoy playing the game, but I'm starting to look for other ways to keep interested. I can't speak for anyone else (ha ha) but I think a year is long enough for a golf game. Or maybe we've just been spoilt in the past. And no Hippystein, I did not get banned for using a script. I don't know where the heck you get your imformation from- if anywhere.
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Post by tenbobnote on Jan 2, 2020 2:39:25 GMT -5
And finally, guess who these swing lines belong to?
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Post by fadgewacker on Jan 2, 2020 2:49:43 GMT -5
And finally, guess who these swing lines belong to? Could be anybody due to the ghost feedback feature Jeff.
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Post by donkeypuncherben on Jan 2, 2020 2:58:32 GMT -5
I just want to make one comment on the situation then I am done with it. I don’t like the he got his 3rd strike. Strangely, I was hoping he was working out his swing and maybe he was. I bet it would be tough to do to abandon a swing you do so well with. I think we all know it is an advantage though, why else would it keep failing the API. It’s not just him. What bothers me the most is it’s not his fault it is an advantage. I still blame HB, they seem to get a free pass in this crap. No matter what evidence we provide they deny there is a problem. On a personal level the guy slighted me for something petty and so in that regard maybe he deserves it.
I think this is a really good take. As someone who had multiple API fails last year and was working on it, it is not really so easy to find a balance when you are capable of failing the API with standard controller and your normal technique that you've used for a long time. I sympathize with anyone going through that process.
However considering he was someone on a high horse for a long time, there is a bit of schadenfreude watching his turn to have all of his accomplishments questioned by the sanctimonious peanut gallery.
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Post by hippystein on Jan 2, 2020 3:04:22 GMT -5
Problem is who designs a golf game where the controller is the issue. No std ps4 controller is the same. Ive had to change a couple of times now due to getting close with the line. I always had a ds4 i only used for golf and another i played cod and fifa with due to it getting some serious hammer. If you use one pad alone its gone stay stiffer for longer as you are only making 2 movements. Back and forth. But i also know ppl that have pulled pads out the packet and been pulled first event with it. Gone back to shop exvhanged it for another new one. Same swing technique and no pull. Basically what im getting at is to get pulled you have to be hitting same line time and time again. Doesnt have to be dead straight. It can be same shape. The flick swing doesnt matter what shape it is. If you short swing the ball flies 50% straighter than if not. I swing it full as i use finger and thumb as ive said before. Its impossible to short swing using that technique cos u are committing to push stick forward all the way. If you flick you can fully loft with minimal squirt. If i fully loft it can go anything from 6boxes to 12boxes right of target. It can also fly less. Thats a massive difference. If you know how to play the wind and kick and you only have to worry bout your ball squirting 3-6 boxes instead of 6-12 thats massive. Much less room for error full swinging. If you can knock it inside 12ft all the time your gonna shoot low no matter wat the greens are doing. Ive tried to short swing and i would be there all day as if you dont push far enough forward the player just wont even hit the ball. Theres also people who swing like in the video i post. Never gonna fail api but game the system. This should also be looked at. How can it be that you can win on tour when 90% of ur shots arent even in the blue hitting area. The guys who run the tour do have a lot of crap to deal with and the api is there to snag those with an unfair advantage. When i failed api it was for my putt line being too straight. Hence the rule change on tour. My ban was for me being abusive in the forums which looking back i was a knob. Couple of months on cod and im using the exact same pad i failed with before. And swing line and putt line is all over the shop. The problem is because the short swing can be falsely manufactured the integrity of certain players will always be questioned. Only the players who choose to abuse know whether they are gaming the system or not. I watched a lot of streams and played enough arcade golf over the last decade to spot them a mile off. Ive said before the only way to put everyone on the same level playing field is to play using pro clubs. But that'll never happen all systems have a fair shout then and then it comes down to who can putt the best. Good luck all for the main stretch of the season and wishing you all a great 2020.
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Post by Generic_Casual on Jan 2, 2020 4:31:51 GMT -5
Got back from my trip and played all 4. 😎😎
-13 -18 -14 -14
-59 total. 😊😊
Never once looked at the leaderboard. 😬😬
Sad I couldn't get to -60. 😭😭
However, I think even THAT will get surpassed. 😏😏
Had a bogey in the first. 😠😠
Had about 13 lip-outs. 😕😕
Blah, blah...same as everyone. 😂😂
Played the wind really well. 😊😊
Made some quite nice putts for missing a bunch. 😬😬
Hit some shots like a mong here and there. 😭😭
Had the math of a Pre-K kid a few times. 😂😂
I will gladly take my finish wherever it is. 😏😏
Good luck!
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Post by welikeitroughnc on Jan 2, 2020 4:54:02 GMT -5
Got back from my trip and played all 4. 😎😎 -13 -18 -14 -14 -59 total. 😊😊 Never once looked at the leaderboard. 😬😬 Sad I couldn't get to -60. 😭😭 However, I think even THAT will get surpassed. 😏😏 Had a bogey in the first. 😠😠 Had about 13 lip-outs. 😕😕 Blah, blah...same as everyone. 😂😂 Played the wind really well. 😊😊 Made some quite nice putts for missing a bunch. 😬😬 Hit some shots like a mong here and there. 😭😭 Had the math of a Pre-K kid a few times. 😂😂 I will gladly take my finish wherever it is. 😏😏 Good luck! Too much smoke bro 🤣🤣🤣 great rounds you pre k mong flicker 😛
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Post by tenbobnote on Jan 2, 2020 4:57:07 GMT -5
And finally, guess who these swing lines belong to? Could be anybody due to the ghost feedback feature Jeff. Ha ha, nice sidestep Mark. I wasn't really expecting anyone to actually have a guess anyway. I was just trying to show how sometimes we see things differently when we have an open mind.
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Post by fadgewacker on Jan 2, 2020 5:12:29 GMT -5
I just want to make one comment on the situation then I am done with it. I don’t like the he got his 3rd strike. Strangely, I was hoping he was working out his swing and maybe he was. I bet it would be tough to do to abandon a swing you do so well with. I think we all know it is an advantage though, why else would it keep failing the API. It’s not just him. What bothers me the most is it’s not his fault it is an advantage. I still blame HB, they seem to get a free pass in this crap. No matter what evidence we provide they deny there is a problem. On a personal level the guy slighted me for something petty and so in that regard maybe he deserves it.
I think this is a really good take. As someone who had multiple API fails last year and was working on it, it is not really so easy to find a balance when you are capable of failing the API with standard controller and your normal technique that you've used for a long time. I sympathize with anyone going through that process.
However considering he was someone on a high horse for a long time, there is a bit of schadenfreude watching his turn to have all of his accomplishments questioned by the sanctimonious peanut gallery.
The sanctimonious peanut gallery, being anyone that understands that short swinging is a broken HB game feature? This isn't Chris' turn to be questioned, as it seems his achievements have always been questioned, since well before he started to fail API... as he was clearly and openly short swinging. We all had the evidence and information to support and understand that very close to the start of TGC2019's maiden TGCT season it was wrong - admin warned against using it, but many people continued to take no heed, despite the obvious advantage that they were gaining (which has been evidenced in much more detail since). The fault in the game is all on HB. What isn't on HB, is the onus on people to change that so that they can compete fairly in this iteration of the game. I had to change. Others have changed. It's not impossible. Whether you feel you should have to change due to it being your fault or not that HB borked the swing is a personal thing. If you're continuing to fail the API, and the reasons are quite obvious for it, where the advantage is there for all to see, and you do little to nothing to alter the situation... I personally find that morally wrong, and I have no sympathy whatsoever for anyone that finds themselves continually in that boat. Some people ignore it, and say "I've always played this way", others throw in a few crap swings now and then to try and fool the API, and others will actually change their swing and be worse off on a weekly basis for it. Whatever you think about the peanut gallery, that I'm sure I'm part of - I personally ALWAYS, first and foremost, want to see people get things adjusted, keep their scores on the board and have the best players competing fairly at the highest level.
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Post by donkeypuncherben on Jan 2, 2020 6:04:32 GMT -5
If you're continuing to fail the API, and the reasons are quite obvious for it, where the advantage is there for all to see, and you do little to nothing to alter the situation... I personally find that morally wrong, and I have no sympathy whatsoever for anyone that finds themselves continually in that boat.
You don't really know what anyone is doing to try to alter the situation but you're quick to pounce them as "doing little to nothing" and then claiming they are morally wrong and unworthy of your sympathy. As I said, sanctimonious
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Post by donkeypuncherben on Jan 2, 2020 6:12:12 GMT -5
For all we know, Chris' API fails are from his putting and not from his short swings. This would make perfect sense to me since any video I have seen of him swinging the line is not in the blue box. He probably would have failed API a lot earlier if it was his swing. Putting is much more difficult to self-assess and fix
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Post by fadgewacker on Jan 2, 2020 6:28:09 GMT -5
If you're continuing to fail the API, and the reasons are quite obvious for it, where the advantage is there for all to see, and you do little to nothing to alter the situation... I personally find that morally wrong, and I have no sympathy whatsoever for anyone that finds themselves continually in that boat.
You don't really know what anyone is doing to try to alter the situation but you're quick to pounce them as "doing little to nothing" and then claiming they are morally wrong and unworthy of your sympathy. As I said, sanctimonious
I’m not pouncing on anybody. It’s up to you to decide how much little you’re doing about the situation, and your moral footing from that point on is your bag. I said that I personally find little to no action morally wrong. I’m not suggesting that Crawesy or you or anyone else for that matter is specifically doing “nothing”, but my view is that if you’re willing to just ride it out, and get the odd DQ - that’s wrong.
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Post by fadgewacker on Jan 2, 2020 7:15:57 GMT -5
For all we know, Chris' API fails are from his putting and not from his short swings. This would make perfect sense to me since any video I have seen of him swinging the line is not in the blue box. He probably would have failed API a lot earlier if it was his swing. Putting is much more difficult to self-assess and fix I'd bet my life on the fact that his pulls were for his full swing, rather than his putting, Ben... There are a number of reasons that make me think that, but I'm not about to explain again. I'm in the same boat as GW here, I'm surprised Chris got pulled again. Results and a few streams seemed to suggest he was trying to change it up. Regards putting - if you get pulled for putting, it's for insane repeatability. When you're done for that it's usually the pad or some other "issue". Putting actually behaves normally under short swing circumstances (you can get left and right feedback, and it matches the feedback in game / on the feedback circle), so it's actually half as likely at least that was the issue, as you can't miss left with a short swing (full stroke).
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Jan 2, 2020 15:43:16 GMT -5
Rounds 3 & 4 update:
I suck again.
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Post by blueorfe on Jan 2, 2020 18:37:10 GMT -5
New year, same inconsistent struggles.
-27 through two, I had a huge problem with the consistency of the slope effect on approach shots. It just seems a lottery as to whether a slope will play or not: no matter what direction.
I did manage this on the 11th though...
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