Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2019 14:25:51 GMT -5
-15 and -12. I will continue my MC streak unless the amount of players drops due to the holidays.
Also, I am a trash putter compared to the rest of this tour.
|
|
|
Post by frank70 on Dec 22, 2019 15:31:47 GMT -5
-11 -11
-22 for a double strike!?
Sometimes I remember how unrealistic this game is. It doesn't even resemble the game of golf. Scoring under par should be an achievement.
In that regard the game is really, really bad.
But it is what it is.
I wish that there would be a game out there that would be a good simulation of the real thing.
I really hate these scores!!!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2019 16:28:01 GMT -5
-11 -11 -22 for a double strike!?Sometimes I remember how unrealistic this game is. It doesn't even resemble the game of golf. Scoring under par should be an achievement. In that regard the game is really, really bad. But it is what it is. I wish that there would be a game out there that would be a good simulation of the real thing. I really hate these scores!!! PGA doesn't get enough players for double strikes even during normal weeks. Considering this is a holiday week I would think that the number of players might not even be enough for single strikes this week. We shall see.
|
|
|
Post by GW_Hope on Dec 22, 2019 16:57:48 GMT -5
-11 -11 -22 for a double strike!? Sometimes I remember how unrealistic this game is. It doesn't even resemble the game of golf. Scoring under par should be an achievement. In that regard the game is really, really bad. But it is what it is. I wish that there would be a game out there that would be a good simulation of the real thing. I really hate these scores!!! Thats why I am on the verge of hanging up the PGA and just play TST. I am not having fun anymore in here.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2019 17:10:31 GMT -5
-11 -11 -22 for a double strike!? Sometimes I remember how unrealistic this game is. It doesn't even resemble the game of golf. Scoring under par should be an achievement. In that regard the game is really, really bad. But it is what it is. I wish that there would be a game out there that would be a good simulation of the real thing. I really hate these scores!!! Thats why I am on the verge of hanging up the PGA and just play TST. I am not having fun anymore in here. On the tiered tours here one has to take into account that you are playing against those mostly on the same level as you and scoring versus par is irrelevant.
Playing TST is closer to simulation, and if that is your goal then you are getting there. But also consider that it is open to all skill levels, so there is definitely some trade off when comparing to the field versus to par.
The USE societies (if one wishes to police themselves) is an even better simulation. If that is your goal and/or even for more realistic scores then this one applies to you. I want to enjoy USE rounds, but the limitations by HB make it so I have to police myself and I would rather the options are there to limit the Society to do that for me... but they aren't there. Is that kind of lazy? Yes, but it is also something that shouldn't be hard to do on their end, IMO.
|
|
|
Post by GW_Hope on Dec 22, 2019 17:44:23 GMT -5
Thats why I am on the verge of hanging up the PGA and just play TST. I am not having fun anymore in here. On the tiered tours here one has to take into account that you are playing against those mostly on the same level as you and scoring versus par is irrelevant.
Playing TST is closer to simulation, and if that is your goal then you are getting there. But also consider that it is open to all skill levels, so there is definitely some trade off when comparing to the field versus to par.
The USE societies (if one wishes to police themselves) is an even better simulation. If that is your goal and/or even for more realistic scores then this one applies to you. I want to enjoy USE rounds, but the limitations by HB make it so I have to police myself and I would rather the options are there to limit the Society to do that for me... but they aren't there. Is that kind of lazy? Yes, but it is also something that shouldn't be hard to do on their end, IMO.
For me, it’s just I can to keep consistent tempo for 72 holes to even have a chance at top 10. In TST it more manageable. Yes I play on PS4, not everybody has the luxury of P/P every shot. I had a random VF/VS today. I have never seen that one!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2019 17:50:31 GMT -5
On the tiered tours here one has to take into account that you are playing against those mostly on the same level as you and scoring versus par is irrelevant.
Playing TST is closer to simulation, and if that is your goal then you are getting there. But also consider that it is open to all skill levels, so there is definitely some trade off when comparing to the field versus to par.
The USE societies (if one wishes to police themselves) is an even better simulation. If that is your goal and/or even for more realistic scores then this one applies to you. I want to enjoy USE rounds, but the limitations by HB make it so I have to police myself and I would rather the options are there to limit the Society to do that for me... but they aren't there. Is that kind of lazy? Yes, but it is also something that shouldn't be hard to do on their end, IMO.
For me, it’s just I can to keep consistent tempo for 72 holes to even have a chance at top 10. In TST it more manageable. Yes I play on PS4, not everybody has the luxury of P/P every shot. I had a random VF/VS today. I have never seen that one! I've made 2/16 cuts (assuming a MC here for this event) on PGA this season and I still feel I belong here and try to make the cut every week. I have had one top 50 among those two cuts all season. At the rate I am playing a Top 10 is a pipe dream.
Note that I mentioned that TST allows all tiers of difficulty among TGCT members, so that is why you find it "more manageable". You are literally playing against those with less skill. I don't say that as a slam towards those players. It is what it is. The green grid off and other TST specific rules can offset some of that difference, but realistically you are still playing against a field that, as an aggregate, is quite inferior to a PGA field, and less so, but realistically, inferior to a PGA card member.
|
|
|
Post by GW_Hope on Dec 22, 2019 18:22:49 GMT -5
Well, whatever reason, not that I need one it is more fun for me is all. To each their own.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2019 19:14:59 GMT -5
Well, whatever reason, not that I need one it is more fun for me is all. To each their own. Not to be "that guy" but I am going to anyways for transparency.
There is a distinct advantage implied towards PS4 "flickers" here on the PGA tour, yes? They are considered at an advantage towards their regular PS4 peers that do not use it, let alone versus the PC and XB1 community. I got raked through the coals by members here, including you while I used that method in the past for being an advantage. Correct?
For one to acknowledge the advantage here among the flickers, but not the advantage "because it is more fun for me" while knowing they are playing against those with known disadvantages on TST (those with a main tour card on a lower TGCT tour) than the one plays with doesn't really sit well with me.
Just so I am correct on this is all I have to ask.. you are not okay with flickers getting premium results, but are okay with getting premium results because of the structure of TST, is that correct? I ask this because I have changed my swing totally to conform to the 'anti-flicker' arguments AND recently have stopped playing TST because I believe it would be better for that tour to play with two divisions, a.k.a. like we did a couple of years back.
Sorry that I used you to be the scapegoat, but as this tour moves more towards the 'how perfect can I shoot' mentality, I see members that have been against that method of play (flickers) now say that "whatever, one is more fun for me" even though the advantage is there on both tours.
|
|
|
Post by GW_Hope on Dec 22, 2019 20:01:42 GMT -5
No problem. Don’t get me wrong I don’t compete for wins in TST either. And for raking you over coals, that wasn’t personal and I never blamed you. I have always blamed HB you may have taken it as I was attacking you but that was not the case. You made the change after your DQ not because of what anybody said I believe. Back to TST, flickers definitely still have an advantage but they lose some pinpoint ability and I like the stricter DQ policy. I haven’t played tons of TST so it’s fresh to me, it’s more immersive. I study the course, I don’t use ghosts. It’s very satisfying getting a birdie and par is OK. And that is on normal courses that play fair.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2019 20:14:16 GMT -5
No problem. Don’t get me wrong I don’t compete for wins in TST either. And for raking you over coals, that wasn’t personal and I never blamed you. I have always blamed HB you may have taken it as I was attacking you but that was not the case. You made the change after your DQ not because of what anybody said I believe. Never did I make it personal as I am not here, and I hope you understand that is mutual in reciprocation here.
I made it a point before last season (before TGC2019 events here) began to play as I normally had until I got a DQ because I had a silly sense of being "above" the API and thinking I had some kind of crooked swing or whatever that would save me. This is 100% truth on my part, and I was wrong in that belief, and I should have modified my swing before last season even started. But I cannot change that now.
In the interim I have done nothing but try to get full swings while trying to avoid the BS hockey stick or as I call them 'fishttail' swings where the feedback goes off to a side after the line has already hit the top of the swing. My results have some to do with that trial and error, some to do recently with controller swapping, some to do with speeding through too fast, and some to do with poor putting.
I also blame HB. Never took it personally from anyone, only put forth the (at the time false) time my personal feelings about the short swing.
Note that I have played TST since its inception here with varying amounts of participation % over time. It's not that I am coming from a point of not knowing how TST works. I simply say that one should judge their TST results most around the other players that hold the same regular tour cards, and then a bit less so for those with cards less than you hold. Then if one can beat those with a card 'above' you, even better.
|
|
|
Post by GW_Hope on Dec 22, 2019 20:16:39 GMT -5
Lol, many of the lesser tour players beat me! Maybe because it’s a new challenge for me, I think I may have a chance one day. I have no chance in PGA and know it. I can swing straight and I can have good single rounds but it feels impossible to have 4 good rounds. I bet I had 15-20 off tempo shots in r1&2 . Occasionally I play a round with only a couple. Yes, I get them in TST too but I have enough quality shots To get by because of the lesser talent like you say.
|
|
|
Post by unclevirt on Dec 22, 2019 21:44:50 GMT -5
Shot -66 again, shocker. I excel at shooting similar scores to that which I already have shot....For example, I have shot -49 3 or 4 times this season. Shooting back to back weeks of -66 is only fitting.
I must say, not having to think about your shot really takes a lot of the "reward" out of hitting a good shot. I guess I like tougher conditions more.
I focused as well as I could have over the first two rounds. However, in the 3rd I missed 4 or 5 putts inside of 7 feet and hit the wrong club 3 times. When I say "wrong club" I mean I hit an 8 iron when I really meant to hit a 7 iron. I'm not saying I was looking back and saying I should have hit 8 instead of 7. I just had zero focus because I just didn't care. Playing birdie-fests isn't my cup of tea.
With this being said, my heart goes out to the schedulers. I can see that y'all will never make everyone happy and that's okay. I don't think making everyone happy will ever be a possibility.
I kind of prefer tougher setups with firm conditions and heavy winds. It just makes me think more and that thought process helps me stay engaged. Maybe I have ADHD =P. I remember Bubba Watson once said something along the lines of, "I love Augusta because It's hard for me focus at most courses but on the Augusta National greens, you have to focus to succeed". That's pretty much how I feel. On low wind, medium conditions, I just don't think I'll ever succeed.
Good luck to everyone this week and I hope y'all enjoy the course and low scores(: Also, Merry Christmas if you celebrate it and have a Happy New Year!!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2019 22:46:01 GMT -5
All I can say is...Good luck! Well there goes Tom Humphries record of -75 from season 1. Guess he will have to change his user name from t2theb2 to t2theb10
|
|
|
Post by hippystein on Dec 23, 2019 6:43:02 GMT -5
-72 for me had my best ever scoring tour round in r2 of -21 and putted on the whole really well. Felt like i left at least 6-8 shots out there but when you swing it to the top the squirt shot is emphasised and when the wind is like this its not like chucking darts for us. Had 5 putts miss by a nats in r1 and none of them were overely hard. In rd 2 i made everything including 55ft eagle which is always nice. Rd 3 i had a few wrong club choices into the par 5s and a few squirt shots leave me the wrong side of the hole or too far away. I was putting well but you cant keep holing 12-20ft putts all day. That happens when you dont know exactly where your balls gonna fly. Even with my putting stats 81% one putt 58% long putt and 100% 100% on the others. I knew itd be nowhere near the W as all the straight shooters will rip this to bits. I genuinely think the only way to save the tour from this issue week in week out is make everybody play using pro clubs then everybody is playing the same set up then. Cos we all know that theres some mad fangled ways of swinging using masters that give you a massive advantage on the full swingers. Short flick or not. When you can shoot -75+ without even getting your swing line in the blue it makes it a bit of a joke! Aim 10 boxes left and hit big squirt laser straight. Its gotta be the way forward. Wont fail api if your not even in the blue. Hey ho. Loved the course tho it was easy on the eye and well executed design wise and hadnt been tricked up to high heaven. With regards to xbox tempo issues. Has anybody actually looked at the size of the hole the analogue stick is sitting in cos i noticed when round a friends the other day the stick is able to move considerably more than the ds4 and i think thats why the tempo is all to cock. Are any of the xbox players using a ds4 on there xbox to alleviate this would be cool to know. Its a shame how a game can be so reliant on wat controller u are using. I know the new ps5 is going to have pre programmed sensitivity for the triggers so that depending on what game your playing the triggers tension changes and ive also read that the analogue sensitivity is going to be customisable in the settings to adjust like it is on the scuff. Golfs definitely gonna be interesting on the new systems thats for sure! Have a nice xmas all and if rkn turns up at your house to empty his sack in the early hours dont forget to call 999 or 911.
Merry christmas to all.
|
|