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Post by Terry Grayson on Oct 14, 2019 15:16:33 GMT -5
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acesgalore
Amateur Golfer
Posts: 294
TGCT Name: Chris Hall - Gamer Tag: H4LLY9
Tour: CC-Pro
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Post by acesgalore on Oct 14, 2019 15:21:20 GMT -5
Step 1: See drama
Step 2: Check who started drama
Step 3: Ignore drama.
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Post by nevadaballin on Oct 14, 2019 15:21:35 GMT -5
With 18 holes, there are 18 chances to make the same mistake (in one person's eyes) and 18 chances for that mistake to be noted 18 times. 36 times if it's one of my courses. The best advice I can give is this: 1) Don't watch the news when it's about you and 2) design courses for yourself. If others like them then that's a bonus. This has been my mantra since retiring from course contests last year. Tastes great and it's less filling
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Post by Terry Grayson on Oct 14, 2019 15:22:21 GMT -5
Anyone else when they see the word clique when they roll up in here
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Post by jwtexan on Oct 14, 2019 15:44:08 GMT -5
Tott. Bud. If you have any questions or concerns about constructive criticism from others I would refer you back to your very first post ever on this site.
yes, i already acknowledged that. thats why i dont get where the line is. are we just drawing the line wherever we need it? yes, i have been completely negative in other course threads, so if i just word my negative comments into little one liners, then thats ok? this was more about him being a judge, and just how it came off. he was foaming at the mouth to make jokes about my course, he literally couldnt wait. combine that with the fact he purposely says my name wrong, and i guess im just supposed to be be like "hyuk hyuk hyuk jokes lol ha ha ha ha". and when people message me, agreeing with me, but wont post here, just shows the culture around here. even guys with waaaaay more posts than me, who have clearly been around for a while. ok "bud"?
Wonder why folks couldn't wait to critique a course of yours. I'm not in "the clique," I just have a long memory of anyone on this site who complains about designs before they design a course themselves. It isn't as easy as it seems. Sorry it was your turn to get some of your own medicine.
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Post by catcherman22 on Oct 14, 2019 15:48:38 GMT -5
Ah okay, so there's a secret group of people outside of the clique that messages each other about the existence of the clique. So now there's an anti-clique. Do you guys call yourselves something cool like "The Rebellion" or "The Renegades"? Do you meet on Thursday nights to discuss how the clique has wronged you every week? Ok enough joking around. Jokes aren't fun. It seems like the supposed clique only exists to those who feel like they are outside of it. Thus proving that "the clique" is just a made up thing for people who have done something to outcast themselves from the community. Now they have something they can rally behind when they feel like individuals are pushed to the side. The reality of the clique is that it's basically just all the well-standing members of the community that have mutual respect for each other. In other words, the clique is just people that are here having fun. Isn't ironic that the only actual clique is a clique that was formed as the anti clique to the supposed clique? Wait.. maybe that's too many cliques? SQUIRREL
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Post by boffo on Oct 14, 2019 15:59:13 GMT -5
But hey, defend him, not that it's a surprise at this point.... I know right... it's like he's part of some clique or something.... I think I'm going to have to ban you for purposely opening that can of worms. Since I don't have banning powers I'll have to improvise. I'll get back to you on that.
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Post by gdog on Oct 14, 2019 16:06:10 GMT -5
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Post by catcherman22 on Oct 14, 2019 16:06:31 GMT -5
I know right... it's like he's part of some clique or something.... I think I'm going to have to ban you for purposely opening that can of worms. Since I don't have banning powers I'll have to improvise. I'll get back to you on that. To be fair, I wasn't the one who brought it up... it was alluded to in the post I quoted
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Post by tottenhamordie on Oct 14, 2019 16:09:38 GMT -5
Ah okay, so there's a secret group of people outside of the clique that messages each other about the existence of the clique. So now there's an anti-clique. Do you guys call yourselves something cool like "The Rebellion" or "The Renegades"? Do you meet on Thursday nights to discuss how the clique has wronged you every week? Ok enough joking around. Jokes aren't fun. It seems like the supposed clique only exists to those who feel like they are outside of it. Thus proving that "the clique" is just a made up thing for people who have done something to outcast themselves from the community. Now they have something they can rally behind when they feel like individuals are pushed to the side. The reality of the clique is that it's basically just all the well-standing members of the community that have mutual respect for each other. In other words, the clique is just people that are here having fun. Isn't ironic that the only actual clique is a clique that was formed as the anti clique to the supposed clique? Wait.. maybe that's too many cliques? SQUIRREL
isnt it ironic that i literally said they are just random people who i have never talked to, but you didnt read that, because you are just here to defend someone in your little circle? you guys really try to down play it, while also perpetuating any chance you get lol. maybe i will have to call out more people because this is the most entertaining part. the same people gang up in every thread i make, coincidence? i think not.....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2019 16:17:39 GMT -5
tottenhamordie - I'm sorry that there are people out there that don't seem to like the DAM guys, or their friends, or the other contributing members of this community that apparently make up the "insiders clique." Obviously that's never the goal, but hey, I don't expect everyone to like me. At the end of the day, hopefully the community design "clique" is doing more good than bad within TGCTours, and I think if we lined up all of the people supported and helped in this community by members that you have deemed "insiders," it would number more than the amount of people who hate the "insiders." At this point, we might as well just agree that there is a clique within the design community, but if that's the case, it's a lot bigger than just the people with DAM badges in their signature, and I'll tell you right now that there is no official invite to get into the clique, but there sure is a way to keep yourself outside of it. Food for thought I guess.
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Post by ErixonStone on Oct 14, 2019 16:18:16 GMT -5
I have not watched others' streams of your course.
I don't know what was said.
I don't care what was said.
Your course is your course and will be judged accordingly.
My stream is my own feedback and criticisms. I hope I do a good enough job explaining why I like/don't like elements, and how some things could be done better.
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Post by boffo on Oct 14, 2019 16:37:42 GMT -5
Isn't ironic that the only actual clique is a clique that was formed as the anti clique to the supposed clique? Wait.. maybe that's too many cliques? SQUIRREL
isnt it ironic that i literally said they are just random people who i have never talked to, but you didnt read that, because you are just here to defend someone in your little circle? you guys really try to down play it, while also perpetuating any chance you get lol. maybe i will have to call out more people because this is the most entertaining part. the same people gang up in every thread i make, coincidence? i think not.....
If you do can you just call them out in a single thread to save everyone some time? These issues you have with individual members that should be dealt with via PM instead of creating or hijacking threads are still so boring to the general viewing public.
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Post by Trayys on Oct 14, 2019 16:38:49 GMT -5
You started this thread about a 3rd party course review, this is why I am for the 1st time ever commenting on one of your ridiculous threads... after watching it, still have no idea what made you so upset? If people we're extremely nice would that have inspired you to make a thread asking why you didn't get enough criticism? Who knows...
From your 1st post to now, nothing has changed. Have a bad round then go give what you call "constructive criticism" on that course which is really just crying about your poor performance, or in the tour thread calling everyone bots because you didn't win. Don't get the course review you wanted, why not blame it on a few playful jokes about the MASSIVE greens on your course. Still cannot believe that is what this is all about, extremely mild compared to what has been said in the past... quit being soft or quit the game.
"Psychological projection is a defense mechanism people subconsciously employ in order to cope with difficult feelings or emotions. Psychological projection involves projecting undesirable feelings or emotions onto someone else, rather than admitting to or dealing with the unwanted feelings."
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Post by catcherman22 on Oct 14, 2019 16:51:27 GMT -5
Isn't ironic that the only actual clique is a clique that was formed as the anti clique to the supposed clique? Wait.. maybe that's too many cliques? SQUIRREL
isnt it ironic that i literally said they are just random people who i have never talked to, but you didnt read that, because you are just here to defend someone in your little circle? you guys really try to down play it, while also perpetuating any chance you get lol. maybe i will have to call out more people because this is the most entertaining part. the same people gang up in every thread i make, coincidence? i think not.....
For the record... I'm not a part of the inner circle... I'm not cool enough to hang with those goats.
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