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Post by Ray on Sept 25, 2019 1:47:40 GMT -5
Should just do what you did to teetogreens. Simply delete the troublemakers.
Not the fun ones like me though...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 16:24:20 GMT -5
Some people will always try and find a advantage in life. No matter what the consequences. All my years playing golf and video game golf people's real personality comes out very quickly. It's almost like golf is a personality test/pysch analysis . I know in real golf right away what kind of person you are after the first hole. In video game golf it's not much different. Golf seems to bring the worst out people but it certainly can bring out the best. I tell my sons that golf is a true test not of your physical ability but your mental strength. That is why I love the game. That is why I love playing no assits. It's not about how well I hit the ball it's about the decisions I make. Idk know why I just wrote that but sounded good in my head 🤪. Bravo to the guys that run this. I would have no patience for any of this. After 1 hole you’d know I’m better than you at golf 😂 I’ll organise a tee time at my local course, let me know when you can make it 😂🇦🇺👍 I'd punch your chest. Easy win . We never get on the course. Bar is like a plugged lie in the sand. Never get out of it
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Post by materialization on Sept 28, 2019 6:45:17 GMT -5
I do just want everyone to know, I am not trying to whine and complain just to get my score back. I'm not even sure a -37 finished high enough to get a promo mark last week in CC-A. I like this game and play it right. I'm just simply at a loss as to how I can fix it, without going and buying a new controller, which is not going to happen. I literally just bought this one 2 months ago. I find that to be somewhat of an unacceptable answer, honestly. Just gonna mention that I too had this same issue last week on xbox CC-A using pro clubs, standard official Xbox controller was used never had any problems before but I'm told there were either too many shots that were constrained to a specific area or the swing lines were not completing correctly which could give this reading. I actually went out and got a new controller then went through the testing with them which passed but it's still giving an over average constrained result. At the moment I remain sceptical if there was anything wrong with the other as it feels and looks just the same in the swing line, perhaps a tiny bit more sensitive? but I suspect it's just because it's new. As far as I'm aware I'm not doing anything wrong so I guess I'll just continue as normal with the new controller, these things can happen but I'm definitely very intrigued right now and may even do a video myself for my own piece of mind if nothing else.
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Post by fadgewacker on Oct 14, 2019 4:19:46 GMT -5
...hopefully it's not something I'll need to worry about because nobody is going to get 3 right! Well, it took 5 events, but we already have a winner Scott (counting PGA and TST). Swift work, very fast... Almost super-sonic, in fact. Ahhh... The exuberance of youth.
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Post by Generic_Casual on Oct 14, 2019 4:44:17 GMT -5
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Post by paddyjk19 on Oct 17, 2019 7:32:28 GMT -5
This is a little more strict than the rule I proposed, which at least allowed a person who might be subject to a controller on the verge of giving out and/or someone who really wants to work to find a solution to play fair. I would hope that some decisions could be overridden by the admin as I feel this rule is really trying to weed out the player who is consistently failing and doing really nothing to fix it. They are just playing the API lottery. This new policy I hope will help put a dent in those folks. For those who are truly struggling, active on the boards and are trying to find a solution, it would be kinda unfair to them. One pull might be bad luck as many of the best legit players have had one round pulled. So they play normally and a few weeks later and get nailed again. They go and get their old controller and try to play with it, full stroke and all and a week later boom their third fail and they are SOL. I would really like to see these players be able to get one strike removed it they could put up a couple months of clean golf. I mean the admin should have a good idea of those player gaming the system and those legitimately trying to correct an issue. I just hope there is a way back in to good graces for the latter group without having to wait a full 52 week season. I'm probably wading into this really late but I doubt there are multiple pulls from people who aren't trying to push the limits of fair. I get that at the top it's about trying to squeeze every single bit out of performance but I've played a whole season on Euro with pulls because I don't flick and my controller passed API tests BEFORE I used in a tournament. It's after market controller but still hasn't failed the API. Ever. My view is we should have the 3 pulls rule across every tour. If you fail three times, you are pushing too hard. Just play the game like everyone else who has never failed an API test
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Post by dg727272 on Oct 17, 2019 7:43:25 GMT -5
My view is we should have the 3 pulls rule across every tour. If you fail three times, you are pushing too hard. Just play the game like everyone else who has never failed an API test Seems reasonable to me.
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Post by GW_Hope on Oct 18, 2019 0:24:00 GMT -5
I’m in PGA and 2 plus full seasons and zero pulls. I kinda suck now but I was in the teens for WGR at one time. A friend is still a top 10 player with no DQs and a full swinger. That is not to say it doesn’t happen. A few other friends in PGA I know play as I do have been pulled. But only once a season at most. I would guess most on PGA have been close here and there but the API is very accurate to such a small degree of deviation that I can’t see ongoing pulls throughout a season. I’ve had rounds where I was striping it and actually was concerned but I passed. That says a lot.
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Post by materialization on Oct 18, 2019 2:06:25 GMT -5
Yeah, I mean I guess these things can just happen whether it be through improper technique, bad luck, controller not correctly functioning or even someone trying to play with dishonesty. Removing those scores that are achieved with no x-axis deviation however must surely be impossible so maybe that could be an instant ban? I mean I doubt you'd even need an algorithm to detect that.
As for whether it might be possible to achieve the kind of result metrics on a 'legal' controller that would usually only be associated with an 'illegal' one using full swings? Even just once? It's an interesting thought.
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Post by fadgewacker on Oct 18, 2019 2:47:03 GMT -5
Yeah, I mean I guess these things can just happen whether it be through improper technique, bad luck, controller not correctly functioning or even someone trying to play with dishonesty. Removing those scores that are achieved with no x-axis deviation however must surely be impossible so maybe that could be an instant ban? I mean I doubt you'd even need an algorithm to detect that. As for whether it might be possible to achieve the kind of result metrics on a 'legal' controller that would usually only be associated with an 'illegal' one using full swings? Even just once? It's an interesting thought. Using full swings on a legit pad - highly improbable, unless the pad has worn a dead zone.
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Post by csfromks on Oct 20, 2019 11:12:18 GMT -5
This is a little more strict than the rule I proposed, which at least allowed a person who might be subject to a controller on the verge of giving out and/or someone who really wants to work to find a solution to play fair. I would hope that some decisions could be overridden by the admin as I feel this rule is really trying to weed out the player who is consistently failing and doing really nothing to fix it. They are just playing the API lottery. This new policy I hope will help put a dent in those folks. For those who are truly struggling, active on the boards and are trying to find a solution, it would be kinda unfair to them. One pull might be bad luck as many of the best legit players have had one round pulled. So they play normally and a few weeks later and get nailed again. They go and get their old controller and try to play with it, full stroke and all and a week later boom their third fail and they are SOL. I would really like to see these players be able to get one strike removed it they could put up a couple months of clean golf. I mean the admin should have a good idea of those player gaming the system and those legitimately trying to correct an issue. I just hope there is a way back in to good graces for the latter group without having to wait a full 52 week season. I'm probably wading into this really late but I doubt there are multiple pulls from people who aren't trying to push the limits of fair. I get that at the top it's about trying to squeeze every single bit out of performance but I've played a whole season on Euro with pulls because I don't flick and my controller passed API tests BEFORE I used in a tournament. It's after market controller but still hasn't failed the API. Ever. My view is we should have the 3 pulls rule across every tour. If you fail three times, you are pushing too hard. Just play the game like everyone else who has never failed an API test I'm sorry I just disagree 100%. I just got pulled for my 2nd time since the start of the season. I bought a new PS controller in July, didn't have any issues until the new season started, now I have two pulls. I'm at a loss. I'm not going to buy another new controller. I'm a 32 yr old dad of two who just sits down at night and plays the game the same way I have played a golf game since the early Tiger Woods golf days. I enjoy this game and this site but I guess my only option is to stop playing here. I don't want sympathy, just a very frustrating feeling.
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Post by fadgewacker on Oct 20, 2019 11:29:22 GMT -5
I'm probably wading into this really late but I doubt there are multiple pulls from people who aren't trying to push the limits of fair. I get that at the top it's about trying to squeeze every single bit out of performance but I've played a whole season on Euro with pulls because I don't flick and my controller passed API tests BEFORE I used in a tournament. It's after market controller but still hasn't failed the API. Ever. My view is we should have the 3 pulls rule across every tour. If you fail three times, you are pushing too hard. Just play the game like everyone else who has never failed an API test I'm sorry I just disagree 100%. I just got pulled for my 2nd time since the start of the season. I bought a new PS controller in July, didn't have any issues until the new season started, now I have two pulls. I'm at a loss. I'm not going to buy another new controller. I'm a 32 yr old dad of two who just sits down at night and plays the game the same way I have played a golf game since the early Tiger Woods golf days. I enjoy this game and this site but I guess my only option is to stop playing here. I don't want sympathy, just a very frustrating feeling. Do your swing lines go to the top of the feedback circle?
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Post by csfromks on Oct 20, 2019 11:49:45 GMT -5
I'm sorry I just disagree 100%. I just got pulled for my 2nd time since the start of the season. I bought a new PS controller in July, didn't have any issues until the new season started, now I have two pulls. I'm at a loss. I'm not going to buy another new controller. I'm a 32 yr old dad of two who just sits down at night and plays the game the same way I have played a golf game since the early Tiger Woods golf days. I enjoy this game and this site but I guess my only option is to stop playing here. I don't want sympathy, just a very frustrating feeling. Do your swing lines go to the top of the feedback circle? Every single shot off of the green goes all the way back and forth. Maybe this is where my ignorance is on all of this, because it was not explained, but when I putt, it does not go all the way to the bottom and top, should it? I'm not sure how you would have any feel if you do that but, again, maybe this is the answer I have been looking for on this issue. If that is the case, then I am much happier and will work to correct that, if not, my frustration remains.
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Post by GW_Hope on Oct 20, 2019 13:43:55 GMT -5
You need to ask admin if you are getting pulled for putting or swing. Also, be careful where you buy your controllers. Lots of phony ones that look identical from packaging and all.
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Post by materialization on Oct 20, 2019 14:05:28 GMT -5
Do your swing lines go to the top of the feedback circle? Every single shot off of the green goes all the way back and forth. Maybe this is where my ignorance is on all of this, because it was not explained, but when I putt, it does not go all the way to the bottom and top, should it? I'm not sure how you would have any feel if you do that but, again, maybe this is the answer I have been looking for on this issue. If that is the case, then I am much happier and will work to correct that, if not, my frustration remains. I went through the whole procedure with the fair play team to hopefully correct my own issue which at the moment is just looking like a faulty controller (dead zones I would guess), but I mentioned about the putt lines and they said this was normal for it not to display a full line from top to bottom. But don't worry I was in the same situation as you like a month ago and was prepared to go to any length to sort it before giving up entirely. Once you narrow it down it can only be two things really, the controller or the technique, I changed my controller so far so good. You probably aren't gonna like it but your issue sounds controller related also. Do you have a friend or family member you can borrow a controller from? If so, go through tests with them with it to compare shot data and it's likely to show whether it's controller related or not. I was told that I should be fine with the new one now so I'm just going along with that. These things aren't cheap so if you could test first you'll probably get to the bottom of it without costing you anything besides a bit of time. Sorry to here it happened again though, I must admit it was a horrible feeling when it happened to me the once so I can certainly sympathise that it happened a second time.
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