fosty73
Caddy
Posts: 34
TGCT Name: Jason Foster
Tour: PGA
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Post by fosty73 on Aug 10, 2019 6:15:54 GMT -5
Could someone explain to me the process of a course getting picked to host a tour event thanks
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Aug 10, 2019 7:12:07 GMT -5
Someone will answer for sure better than me. I can say simply the little I have understand. The courses proposed by designers to the reviewer are checked and tested about the quality and technical side of the course (layout, sculpting, playability). If the course passes this first exam, it is reported in the tgc2019 list of courses as a "tour approved" course. I'm not sure if rangers then starts to checking every course or only those proposed by schedulers..i ignore the dynamic of this phase, but in any case every course taken in exam, is checked again, this time with much more accuracy about playability (pin positions, how it plays depending on the tee used, what kind of wind, speed and firmness of fairways and greens impacts more etc) to offer the best experience possible for the players. About the criteria used to prefer a course or another one, I suppose is all about how much enjoyable a course can be for the players of a certain level. I think it would be funny to partecipate to the conversations between schedulers when they have to choose a course for a tour. Although I don't know every nuance of this work, I think is a pretty good process. I hope this incomplete answer can satisfy a bit your curiosity, waiting for a better answer.
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Post by ErixonStone on Aug 10, 2019 7:42:34 GMT -5
Simply this:
1. Reviewer plays and approves for Tour use 2. Tour scheduler plays and likes. 3. Course is played by rangers to check pin setup and to get commentary about difficulty. 4. Course re-played by scheduler with conditions/lighting in mind. 5. Course is submitted by scheduler to admin staff. This is done anywhere from 3-6 weeks in advance. 6. Admins schedule the course for Society play in-game. 7. Course is added to TGCT schedule.
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Post by hmammoth on Aug 10, 2019 7:45:32 GMT -5
For me, it starts here on the forums. I check the completed courses section regularly, playing as many of the courses as possible, getting a course marked as tour worthy does increase its chances but is no guarantee it will be used on tour. I also watch twitch streams, see what people are playing, seeing how the are getting on with the courses they are playing.When I come across a course I like, I take note of it, I later replay the course, paying a lot more attention to the actual course, checking details like pin positions, sight lines, hazards, hole variation, risk reward shot and difficulty, it also needs to be fun to play. If I think it’s something I think I might use, I send to the rangers to have them check pins, lag and to get general feedback. If a course comes through the rangers, I then play the different pin sets with different settings and conditions. It’s important that I can change things up to make each day play differently. If I am limited to what settings I can use, for example, it’s not possible for me to use high winds because of hole layout, I need to seriously consider does lower winds bring enough variety and challenge, if the answer is no, then I move onto the next course. If then, all is ok, I’ll contact the designer, sometimes asking for changes, sometimes asking for opinions on certain settings. It can be a long process, from the day I find a course to the day it’s on tour can take between 6 to 8 weeks. In the end though, getting a course on tour is down to the individual scheduler, there is no sure fire way to get on tour, with so many fantastic courses, many miss out. My advice to any designer is to keep designing, keep posting about the courses, they are being played, we do pay attention, it’s just not possible for us to comment on every course published, we have a limited number of tour spots but we do give all courses a fair shot.
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fosty73
Caddy
Posts: 34
TGCT Name: Jason Foster
Tour: PGA
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Post by fosty73 on Aug 10, 2019 12:48:54 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies The reason for my question is I have recently had a course accepted onto the course list, which at first thought is a good thing but when I look at the course list there are over 17 pages of courses that have not been ticked to be in tour now is this because they have been rejected after more extensive scrutiny and if so would it not be a good idea to then remove them from the list as some have been on there for 3 to 4 years?
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Post by nevadaballin on Aug 10, 2019 12:59:34 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies The reason for my question is I have recently had a course accepted onto the course list, which at first thought is a good thing but when I look at the course list there are over 17 pages of courses that have not been ticked to be in tour now is this because they have been rejected after more extensive scrutiny and if so would it not be a good idea to then remove them from the list as some have been on there for 3 to 4 years? Too many courses and not enough events to host them all. There's probably well over 100,000 user designed golf courses in this game. Some will be overlooked, there's no way around it.
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Post by Celtic Wolf on Aug 10, 2019 13:16:12 GMT -5
I don't know if these things will help get it on tour but it will help get it some exposure. Do a bit of promoting, get pictures of your course out there, Karma4u takes some great photos of courses so you could ask him. Post your YouTube video up in your course's thread on here include a description of the course. Leave some feedback about other designers' courses and they may reciprocate. Get on Twitch watch and interact with some of the streamers, even stream your own course. Don't get downbeat if your course doesn't get on the Tours it may be picked up by a society which helps get it out there.
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ffrog
Amateur Golfer
Posts: 247
TGCT Name: Dave Richards
Tour: Challenge Circuit
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Post by ffrog on Aug 11, 2019 8:09:44 GMT -5
Too many courses and not enough events to host them all. I’ve probably mentioned this before somewhere, but i’d love to see an event that features multiple courses (like the real-life Dunhill Links on the European Tour), that would be a way to get a few more courses on tour.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Aug 11, 2019 8:14:49 GMT -5
Some courses get picked for tour play based solely on who designed them...let's not kid ourselves
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Post by welikeitroughnc on Aug 11, 2019 8:46:58 GMT -5
Some courses get picked for tour play based solely on who designed them...let's not kid ourselves no doubt about this one imo
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Post by nevadaballin on Aug 11, 2019 11:05:27 GMT -5
Some courses get picked for tour play based solely on who designed them...let's not kid ourselves Reputation probably does play into it, i'm sure. I have no idea who the "league leaders" are in career tour courses used. I think I have two or three since the league started
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Post by jacobkessler on Aug 11, 2019 11:46:49 GMT -5
Some courses get picked for tour play based solely on who designed them...let's not kid ourselves Reputation probably does play into it, i'm sure. I have no idea who the "league leaders" are in career tour courses used. I think I have two or three since the league started You can check that out on the Designer Listing page- just sort by “On Tour” tgctours.com/designer/all?Grid-sort=OnTourCount-desc&Grid-page=1&Grid-pageSize=50&Grid-group=&Grid-filter=I do think being a “household name” in design can help get more courses on tour, but I don’t mean that in a negative way. If you’re one of the Reebs or Mattfs of the world, people know your history and expect a good course, so they get more exposure. And it’s deserved- people like them are the best designers in the game. But when a new designer comes along and publishes their first course, it can get overlooked simply because it’s a new game. Consistently publishing high quality courses will make you become more popular over time. My first course still has like 40 plays in TGC1. While I’d hardly consider myself an “a-list” designer, my latest is at 6.5k plays. In short, I think being one of the more well-known designers can help, but it’s not a “clique” like one guy claimed a while back and it’s still common to see new designers put on tour. I see it all the time.
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Post by ErixonStone on Aug 11, 2019 15:04:46 GMT -5
Some courses get picked for tour play based solely on who designed them...let's not kid ourselves Name one course selected that was selected for the sole reason that a particular designer built it. You're asserting without providing any evidence.
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Post by cappy1 on Aug 11, 2019 15:48:38 GMT -5
Some courses get picked for tour play based solely on who designed them...let's not kid ourselves Name one course selected that was selected for the sole reason that a particular designer built it. You're asserting without providing any evidence. CC Pro last week for example.
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Post by jacobkessler on Aug 11, 2019 16:07:31 GMT -5
Name one course selected that was selected for the sole reason that a particular designer built it. You're asserting without providing any evidence. CC Pro last week for example. Even though it’s not the most visually appealing course in the game, it’s a damn good course when it comes to playability.
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