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Post by ErixonStone on Jul 9, 2019 20:18:05 GMT -5
If you never earn promotion marks or demotion marks, what makes you think you'd ever get a sponsor's exemption, and then successfully earn a promotion? How would going back to the system from season 4 help or hurt you?
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Post by grinder12000 on Jul 9, 2019 21:59:16 GMT -5
Me? I've never even considered a sponsors exemption LOL You have me confused for another topic.
Just sayin, LAST SEASON I won tournaments and was moving all over. It was great. I get hot, move up in the ranks to a higher level, struggle near the bottom for a while and until I go back down. Then the struggle is moving back up instead of not moving down.
It was great fun.
THIS SEASON - I'm always 40th to 90th with no hope of up or down at all. Now! - tell me what sounds like more fun.
If everybody else is having a great time that is fine. But I HAVE to think there are others that like the excitement of moving up and down more often. OR - I am the Mr. Consistent anomaly :-) which very well might be. I say smaller tours (with separate Master / Pro clubs of course if this is a wish list. ) are better.
Let's just lock this thread!
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Post by Doyley on Jul 9, 2019 22:24:16 GMT -5
But, above all this, instead to gain demo mark on purpose, if you think it could be more interesting foe you, why you don't simply start again from the q-school with your other profile? Just to see if something change, if you can find again some joy while you play, I mean. In the end, your amusement should be the only thing really important, isn't? And, if after a couple of weeks you realize this can't be the solution, you can stop it and simply continue with your "usual" user. Tread carefully with multiple accounts: www.tgctours.com/Home/RulesPolicies#multiple-accounts
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Post by grinder12000 on Jul 10, 2019 6:59:57 GMT -5
I don’t have multiple TGCTour accounts. Only the game accounts. I wanted to see the difference in handicaps between pro and master clubs.
It’s about 5 strokes.
And I’ll play whatever tour I’m placed in. Just a wish list for MORE fun. Not a big deal
I love TGCTours in all flavors and will donate yet again
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Jul 10, 2019 9:47:25 GMT -5
But, above all this, instead to gain demo mark on purpose, if you think it could be more interesting foe you, why you don't simply start again from the q-school with your other profile? Just to see if something change, if you can find again some joy while you play, I mean. In the end, your amusement should be the only thing really important, isn't? And, if after a couple of weeks you realize this can't be the solution, you can stop it and simply continue with your "usual" user. Tread carefully with multiple accounts: www.tgctours.com/Home/RulesPolicies#multiple-accountsI knew it. It was simply taken for granted.in my assumption, to play only with one of his accounts.
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Post by ErixonStone on Jul 10, 2019 14:36:44 GMT -5
Me? I've never even considered a sponsors exemption LOL You have me confused for another topic. Just sayin, LAST SEASON I won tournaments and was moving all over. It was great. I get hot, move up in the ranks to a higher level, struggle near the bottom for a while and until I go back down. Then the struggle is moving back up instead of not moving down. It was great fun. THIS SEASON - I'm always 40th to 90th with no hope of up or down at all. Now! - tell me what sounds like more fun. If everybody else is having a great time that is fine. But I HAVE to think there are others that like the excitement of moving up and down more often. OR - I am the Mr. Consistent anomaly :-) which very well might be. I say smaller tours (with separate Master / Pro clubs of course if this is a wish list. ) are better. Let's just lock this thread! This criticism seems to be more about a wider array of skill in each tier of CC which may be a symptom of redoing Q-School paired with slower movement, rather than the idea of slower promotions themselves. I don't know whether there is too much overlap in skill among the CC tiers. If there was a big overlap, you'd expect that players who promote from one flight to do very well in the next.
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Post by SmilingGoats on Jul 10, 2019 16:55:23 GMT -5
The only thing I would change if it was just flipping switches was have separate tours for PRO and MASTER clubs and make it MUCH easier to move up and down. Staying on the same tour for an entire season is boring. I never have a chance to win and never have a chance to get a demo mark Curious...why not play the promotion event if you wanted to move tours?
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paris548
Caddy
Posts: 74
TGCT Name: Greg Paris
Tour: Platinum/TST
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Post by paris548 on Jul 10, 2019 18:06:46 GMT -5
Season 4 was last season. This current season is season 5. Next season will be season 6. I think the question on everyone's mind is, will you be changing the Web Tour, to The Korn Ferry Tour?
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Post by SmilingGoats on Jul 10, 2019 18:47:05 GMT -5
Yes, at season's end.
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Post by greyosprey on Jul 10, 2019 19:46:14 GMT -5
With this season winding down just curious what the leaders are thinking. Separate tours for clubs? More tours. Less tours? Enquiring minds want/need something to complain about 😉 Turn off green grids and/or scout cam for pro tours. Green grids off with scout cam would be ok, I guess, but turn the green grids off. Allow CC Tour(s) to have their own majors that mimic the PGA Tour. Gives them something to play for. Maybe have the CC Tour(s) mimic the PGA/Euro/Web Tour schedules. This would make it a lot easier on the schedulers. Maybe the only thing that has to be tweaked is conditions/set-up. Decrease CC by 1 tour and provide another True Sim Tour/USE Tour option. Most radical idea,.... Not knowing how much work has to go into running this site on a day to day/week to week basis, what if everyone was allowed to play whatever tour they wanted to? Each tour would maintain it's individua stats, money list, etc, but each player could have a ranking for each tour. Cut lines on PRO Tours would remain; obviously field sizes would have to be changed. With this concept, promotions/demotions are eliminated. No more need for promotion events, marks, etc. People simply play the Tour(s) they want to play. My thinking is from an admin perspective, this would possibly "lighten the load", so to speak? Completely guessing on that part, but if a "major change" made things easier on those running this site, that's a good thing, right?
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Post by Art Vandelay on Jul 10, 2019 20:10:15 GMT -5
I heard everyone has to use a mouse, even PS4 and XB1, in the next season.
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Jul 10, 2019 21:16:46 GMT -5
I heard everyone has to use a mouse, even PS4 and XB1, in the next season. I could have better chances to score well playing blindfolded. Or using my controller with my feet
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Theopen
Weekend Golfer
Posts: 143
TGCT Name: Brian Ayers
Tour: Beer League
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Post by Theopen on Jul 12, 2019 10:28:16 GMT -5
For what it's worth, I think turning off the green grid would be a bad idea - regardless of the tour. It's not "more realistic", IMO. In real life, your senses are more attuned to seeing the subtle slopes/elevation changes (you can see more clearly, you can feel the ground under your feet, etc). The graphics in this game are pretty good, I have no complaints ... but it's certainly not good enough to make up for the fact that it's just a 2D representation. The putting is already challenging enough - especially given the propensity for very firm/very fast on the pro tours (along with poor - or should I say, sadistic - green designs in the first place).
To take the "realism" logic a step further ... there really should be a power meter for putting. Because, if you think about it, in real life, when you're standing above and looking down at the ball, your field of view (or the space between your feet) literally becomes the power meter and the club becomes the gauge.
For the record, no, I'm not advocating for power meters ... without them, it is more challenging. It becomes more about practice, practice, practice ... and learning. Just trying to point out the complications/contradictions behind the "more realistic" argument.
I'm sorry to be blunt - to anyone this may apply to - but if you're consistently winning tournaments here, then maybe consider the fact that you've simply beaten the game, and move on. It's really not fair to expect them to make everything more difficult just so you can once again enjoy a game you've already mastered. There are still other people trying to master it, you know? (along with people that may have just started playing).
On the flip side, I don't agree with those that say it needs to be easier. Some people do need to try and accept the fact that this particular game is one they may never be good enough to "win". It's something I struggled with quite a bit when I first started playing this game. I almost quit multiple times. Turns out, I just wasn't good enough (yet) ... kept blaming the "stupid game" because my swing went crooked or just couldn't figure out how this whole Tempo thing worked - along with assuming that everyone at the top of the leaderboards were cheating - because, if I couldn't get those scores, then surely no one else could ... right???!
Well, that pushed me to get better ... I hit the driving range, I hit the putting green ... I learned distances. I learned the tempo. I got more consistent at hitting a straight line. I figured out how far different clubs tend to roll out. I learned how to judge breaks. I learned how to handle loft. Etc. Etc. Currently, I'm in a spot where I can actually compete - and actually believe I have the chance to win. It's taken a couple hundred hours of gameplay to get there, though. So, I guess the point is - put in the time and effort before saying it's too hard! If you still can't do it, then perhaps consider this game just isn't for you (and I don't mean that in a condescending way at all - it's just how life works).
With all that having been said, I think the only thing they could change that would be a "fair" change, would be separating Master/Pro clubs. There is a tangible difference in difficulty between those two clubs, so it would make sense to separate them.
Otherwise, I think the set up here is pretty darn good. Kudos to the TGCTours team for providing this to us in the first place (I guarantee this site is the only reason some people haven't quit the game already - myself included!)
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Jul 12, 2019 14:41:34 GMT -5
To be honest, I can't see very often people complaining about the fact the game should be "easier". Normally, people complains about other things (greens too fast..greens too slow..too much wind..not enough wind etc..personal tastes, in short) but the majority seems to be quite happy to play a game hard in a certain realistic way, more or less. Or at least more realistic than a EA game.
And no one (or almost no one) can propose seriously to shut off the grid meter, cause there's the TST for this.
I proposed to shut off the scout cam only on PGA tour, but is not the same that to shut off the grid on greens. And it is not a so great difficulty added, in any case. It would be a change for the atmosphere, actually. A really good change, in my opinion.
So said, is quite normal that people here are looking always for improve the whole thing in some way. Sometimes a good proposal pops out..sometimes not so much..but is normal. Especially when the end a season is near and a new season is almost ready to start. And considering how much people is playing the tour in these last weeks and the issues with master clubs, is not impossible to see some revolutionary change as the separated tours would be. I'm sure admins are already evaluating pro and cons of this...we'll see.
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Post by LKeet6 on Jul 13, 2019 5:14:40 GMT -5
To add a different perspective on putting, I've been doing true sim (and ultra sim!) For a few weeks now, and gone from almost not being able to detect which way the break goes (the poster above highlighting real life and 2D difference did have a point) and only ever making putts when I got super close, to being able to detect which way it goes almost every time, knocking in a fair few 10-20 footers, and drastically lowering my 3 putt occurrence.
I still have meltdowns! I still have courses that don't seem to suit my eye (lahinch on tst was a nightmare for me!) But you defo CAN read putts without the grid; it's crazy how your eyes and brain adjust.
If you think about it, the pros (even in 3D!) Don't know EXACTLY what the break is, especially on longer putts. They're concentrating on getting the pace right, judging whether it's a small/medium/large break, and on anything more than 12-15ft, hoping to get close, and with the right pace it might just drop in.
That's pretty much exactly what true sim putting is like. You have to adjust to a 2 putt mentality.
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