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Post by SweetTeeBag on Jun 25, 2019 16:11:24 GMT -5
99 percent of my shots r right to left n yes I hold it on an angle . If I hit it right u will see in videos it ends badly The data actually shows 100%
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Post by crawesy89 on Jun 25, 2019 16:15:00 GMT -5
Maybe cos I didn’t block 1 this week. Ever think of that?
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Post by mrohde4 on Jun 25, 2019 16:21:24 GMT -5
It appears to indicate that over 4 rounds you didn’t hit a shot left of centre mate... which is weird, as you do in your Twitch vids. Do you ever stream any Tour rounds? As a mouse player this happens a lot. Sometimes all my shots are right of center some all left. Probably how I'm sitting but it doesn't surprise me controller swings can do the same. Probably if the person rotated the controller a 1/2 inch one way or the other they could be all right of centre.
If Jeff were to post my rounds it would show (I think) I was all over the map this time. When I missed I usually missed outside the cone to the left which is odd cause it usually is right.
I try to avoid addictive substances but man these charts get me going. Would be interesting to learn how commonplace a 100% one-sided chart is among console players, and whether this is commonplace for Mr. Rawsey.
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wmr5277
Amateur Golfer
Posts: 226
TGCT Name: Vitaly Potapenko
Tour: PGA
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Post by wmr5277 on Jun 25, 2019 16:29:13 GMT -5
Maybe Jeff can chime in. Does seem a bit odd that no shots were left on the controller at all on any of these Doesn't seem outrageous to me. If I'm swinging it well I won't have any left strikes either. Doesn't happen a bunch. But it certainly occurs.
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Post by Todd on Jun 25, 2019 16:29:56 GMT -5
Now if I only knew how read or understand it It appears to indicate that over 4 rounds you didn’t hit a shot left of centre mate... which is weird, as you do in your Twitch vids. Do you ever stream any Tour rounds? Could you please explain further? I am curious to know what I'm looking at.
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Post by ohheycat on Jun 25, 2019 16:48:03 GMT -5
On my swings misses to the left on the feeback definitely send the ball to the right, and so do right misses. It is literally impossible to pull a shot. This chart looks exactly like mine so I believe that his and my swings are not truly one sided, however the results of those swings seem to be accurately represented by the chart. There is definitely a disconnect within the game causing the api pulls. My swing is nowhere near what I got in my chart. That's painfully obvious. But anyways I'm still in Cancun lates ya"ll
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Post by fadgewacker on Jun 25, 2019 16:52:34 GMT -5
On my swings misses to the left on the feeback definitely send the ball to the right, and so do right misses. It is literally impossible to pull a shot. This chart looks exactly like mine so I believe that his and my swings are not truly one sided, however the results of those swings seem to be accurately represented by the chart. There is definitely a disconnect within the game causing the api pulls. My swing is nowhere near what I got in my chart. That's painfully obvious. But anyways I'm still in Cancun lates ya"ll It's very possible to pull one if you full swing. Believe me, I've tested it.
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Post by ohheycat on Jun 25, 2019 16:53:37 GMT -5
On my swings misses to the left on the feeback definitely send the ball to the right, and so do right misses. It is literally impossible to pull a shot. This chart looks exactly like mine so I believe that his and my swings are not truly one sided, however the results of those swings seem to be accurately represented by the chart. There is definitely a disconnect within the game causing the api pulls. My swing is nowhere near what I got in my chart. That's painfully obvious. But anyways I'm still in Cancun lates ya"ll It's very possible to pull one if you full swing. Believe me, I've tested it. thats not the point at all but im aware of that point is what should be a pull on a short swing doesn't react as such. I'm actually supporting your case so yup
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Post by GW_Hope on Jun 25, 2019 16:59:19 GMT -5
Here we go again. The short swing is a broken design by HB. Some have a way it works for them without straight lines. They probably don’t even know how they do it. But some have recently learned how to do this but they swing straight so they are busted. Pretty much the argument I’ve made since the beginning. Many would like to use it to compete but can’t or risk API DQs. The game is punishing pure straight swingers wether short (DQ) or full which is over sensitive in comparison. Advantage is to crappy short swingers. Period
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Post by ohheycat on Jun 25, 2019 17:07:59 GMT -5
Here we go again. The short swing is a broken design by HB. Some have a way it works for them without straight lines. They probably don’t even know how they do it. But some a recently learned how to do this but they swing straight so they are busted. Pretty much the argument I’ve made since the beginning. Many would like to use it to compete but can’t or risk APIs. The game is punishing pure straight swingers wether short (DQ) or full which is over sensitive in comparison. Advantage is to crappy short swingers. Period Now that I've dabbled with full swings more I don't believe the short swing is less sensitive. The advantage is only that a push is a push and a pull is a push. It is broken though. What I'm not happy with is that as a result, it seems left misses on sws register to the right in the chart, thereby lessening the dispersion and causing the dq. Based on the results of the swing though, that is accurate. Just to be clear my position is now that the problem isnt the swing, it is however the game inacurrately interprets the swings such that a full swing would be a pull, but a short swing that lands in the same spot is a push. Doesnt matter in the end
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Post by GW_Hope on Jun 25, 2019 17:29:12 GMT -5
I can only go by what I see. I’ve seen some shots land feet from the pin whereas I know I would be in the bunker on the opposite side.
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Post by flyingj75 on Jun 25, 2019 18:08:09 GMT -5
Geeez people! A push is suppose to you know, push the ball. A pull is suppose to, well, pull it. If you swing and you pull it but the result is a push, you have found a way to game the system. Congrats! In my book it's a cheat, but go ahead and be proud that you found a way to make yourself feel good about yourself and at the same time absolutely demolish the competitive aspect of the tour.
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Post by fadgewacker on Jun 25, 2019 18:09:05 GMT -5
I get you Thomas - glad to see you can see both sides of the argument.
The fact of the matter though, is this: If you play the game as intended, with a full swing, then the game plays as intended - a push is a push, a pull is a pull, and it's more difficult to loft accurately.
Play with a short swing, loft away! Dispersion on short swings is considerably less than full, discounting the seemingly impossible pull.
Walk the API tightrope, unless you are so wonky that you don't set it off.
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Took us a few pages to get going again this week...
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Post by ohheycat on Jun 25, 2019 18:17:39 GMT -5
Geeez people! A push is suppose to you know, push the ball. A pull is suppose to, well, pull it. If you swing and you pull it but the result is a push, you have found a way to game the system. Congrats! In my book it's a cheat, but go ahead and be proud that you found a way to make yourself feel good about yourself and at the same time absolutely demolish the competitive aspect of the tour. I wouldn't call it gaming the system as much as I'd call it a broken game, but the results are the same no matter which angle you look at it from. We cant say its the developers intentions. The fact that the ball moves at all says otherwise. I don't know if you are referring to me about feeling good about myself but it seems so, however I haven't played an event in a month and am no longer on the pga tour at all! I could care less about appeasing you all. I'm just using my tgc time on something I might actually enjoy, and meanwhile shortswingers continue to dominate every event. It really is pointless to play at this level, you either risk getting pulled or you aren't competing. Sorry but the competition is already ruined with that. I'm not trying to argue or justify short swinging. I am only speaking matter of factly about the knowledge I have of it. I've decided not to play competitively as a result.
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Post by wcb231 on Jun 25, 2019 18:23:16 GMT -5
Here's what I don't get, and forgive me since I'm new-ish to the game and compete way down on the CC circuit so none of this really effects me.
It's been made clear that if you do the flick/short finish swing that you get DQ'd assuming it's a straight line, right? If that's the case what's the difference between that and an identical flick/short finish that is a little crooked but produces identical results (like, -60 every week)? It seems like you're relying too much on what the computer API says and not enough with common sense; they're both the same kind of swing, they both produce the same result, but you let one go because....why?
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