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Post by Dave on May 28, 2019 14:00:32 GMT -5
I played well in rounds 1 to 3 and bottled it on the final round. Course was fine, if you don’t try and go straight for pins on every hole, I played percentages and made sure I made birdie on the easier par 4’s and par 5’s, and didn’t make bogie on the rest.
Oh, and as Mitch alluded to, these always go down well 😂😂😂
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Post by CuseHokie on May 28, 2019 14:03:41 GMT -5
Turo was definitely a chore in the first round. My issues aren't about tempo or yardage calculation but the weird spins/hops that are a staple of these types of courses ever since TGC 1. In round 2 the 187 greens are what they are. We know that at that speed the ball is going to be wobbling 15 different ways to the hole before breaking hard at the hole 2x more than estimated. The difference between 181 and 187 speeds for me is often night and day but we all have to play the same conditions and we'll all get that extra lucky or unlucky bounce that can result in a 2 shot swing either way. What makes Turo more bearable than some of the other courses is the wider fairways that allow you at least a shot at most pins.
Haven't played the US Open course but if people are comparing it to TGC 1 courses, those were the ones where the courses were designed for medium green speed/firmness but were tricked up by setting all settings at max so a ball that hit 30 yards in front of the green would some how roll through 60 yards of green and end up in the fairway on the other side. It often was just impossible to hold some of those greens with any mid-long iron.
Good point Ron. Wonder if 187 caused my issue. Course was 183 default. You would think it would be minuscule but with all the permutations I imagine it would be hard to ranger.
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Post by GW_Hope on May 28, 2019 14:17:09 GMT -5
Turo was definitely a chore in the first round. My issues aren't about tempo or yardage calculation but the weird spins/hops that are a staple of these types of courses ever since TGC 1. In round 2 the 187 greens are what they are. We know that at that speed the ball is going to be wobbling 15 different ways to the hole before breaking hard at the hole 2x more than estimated. The difference between 181 and 187 speeds for me is often night and day but we all have to play the same conditions and we'll all get that extra lucky or unlucky bounce that can result in a 2 shot swing either way. What makes Turo more bearable than some of the other courses is the wider fairways that allow you at least a shot at most pins.
Haven't played the US Open course but if people are comparing it to TGC 1 courses, those were the ones where the courses were designed for medium green speed/firmness but were tricked up by setting all settings at max so a ball that hit 30 yards in front of the green would some how roll through 60 yards of green and end up in the fairway on the other side. It often was just impossible to hold some of those greens with any mid-long iron.
181? I had 183. Just curious
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Post by mrohde4 on May 28, 2019 14:37:06 GMT -5
I played well in rounds 1 to 3 and bottled it on the final round. Course was fine, if you don’t try and go straight for pins on every hole, I played percentages and made sure I made birdie on the easier par 4’s and par 5’s, and didn’t make bogie on the rest. Oh, and as Mitch alluded to, these always go down well 😂😂😂 Gross. And not in a good way. Fully lofted and downswing outside the channel, misses the target by what, 3 yards? Tough to compete with that result.
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Post by wmr5277 on May 28, 2019 14:49:42 GMT -5
Another what could have been. My poor putting got me again as I was just dreadful all tournament missing an unreal amount of 5 to 15 footers. Over-reading everything usually.
Did have 5 or 6 chip ins which really helped me since I only made 2 putts all tournament over 14 feet.
In at -46 and will probably finish somewhere between 12th and 15th.
Very disappointing to see me only 5 off the lead currently with as poor as I putted. Feel like I should have had this one. Even if the winner comes in -55+. But my game is in a really good place outside of my abysmal putting and a win is very close I reckon.
I've always been a big fan of Turu Wero. Sure a couple greens have you scratching your head but I thought everything was more than fair. My main gripe with the course is that the fairways are far too wide on most holes. But with that said; it's still a fun track.
Good luck to everyone still to tee it up!
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Post by Dave on May 28, 2019 15:21:19 GMT -5
I played well in rounds 1 to 3 and bottled it on the final round. Course was fine, if you don’t try and go straight for pins on every hole, I played percentages and made sure I made birdie on the easier par 4’s and par 5’s, and didn’t make bogie on the rest. Oh, and as Mitch alluded to, these always go down well 😂😂😂 Gross. And not in a good way. Fully lofted and downswing outside the channel, misses the target by what, 3 yards? Tough to compete with that result. I aimed about 10 yards left of the green to allow for a slight block which I always get when I fully loft, plus a low amount of left to right wind. Not really sure what you’re complaining about?
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Post by Brighttail on May 28, 2019 15:25:33 GMT -5
Turo was definitely a chore in the first round. My issues aren't about tempo or yardage calculation but the weird spins/hops that are a staple of these types of courses ever since TGC 1. In round 2 the 187 greens are what they are. We know that at that speed the ball is going to be wobbling 15 different ways to the hole before breaking hard at the hole 2x more than estimated. The difference between 181 and 187 speeds for me is often night and day but we all have to play the same conditions and we'll all get that extra lucky or unlucky bounce that can result in a 2 shot swing either way. What makes Turo more bearable than some of the other courses is the wider fairways that allow you at least a shot at most pins.
Haven't played the US Open course but if people are comparing it to TGC 1 courses, those were the ones where the courses were designed for medium green speed/firmness but were tricked up by setting all settings at max so a ball that hit 30 yards in front of the green would some how roll through 60 yards of green and end up in the fairway on the other side. It often was just impossible to hold some of those greens with any mid-long iron.
181? I had 183. Just curious That was a typo.
Just played US open course and yeah.... I'm going to have to go out and look for where the "fun" is expected to be. Most of the holes are setup where pretty much everything is rolling away from the hole. There were a couple setup where you could use the slope to work back towards the pin but for the most part the course seems to be about protecting against bogey, play to try and some how stay on the putting surface with an up hill putt, other wise expect to be putting/chipping from 20+ feet for par. Should be interesting score wise. Very easy to miss a shot and take a bogey or worse.
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Post by mrohde4 on May 28, 2019 15:57:08 GMT -5
Gross. And not in a good way. Fully lofted and downswing outside the channel, misses the target by what, 3 yards? Tough to compete with that result. I aimed about 10 yards left of the green to allow for a slight block which I always get when I fully loft, plus a low amount of left to right wind. Not really sure what you’re complaining about? "slight block" . . . That's a good one. Pretty sure you're trolling, but whatever. You aimed 8-10 yards left of the pin with a 3-5 mph left-to-right wind. Your downswing on a fully lofted Driver was outside the channel, and the result was a ball flight that landed ten yards right of your aiming point. Accounting for wind, your outside-the-channel "slight block" only altered the flight between 3-5 yards. That's flicking comical. Full swing line outside the channel and the ball is in the right side collection area, if you're lucky. Congrats. great execution.
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Post by B.Smooth13 on May 28, 2019 16:02:33 GMT -5
Umm...we're approaching mid-week and this entire thread has been about the golf tournament. Where am I? You happy with yourself now?
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Post by gavlaar124 on May 28, 2019 16:07:08 GMT -5
Finished off rounds 3 and 4 tonight..... -13 round 3 was very happy with that ... -7 round 4 was very unhappy with that. Had some horrible bounces on the fairways in round 4 especially on the par 5's and some head scratching putt deviations but it is what it is .... -39 total which should bring me my highest finishing position on the pga tour this year. See you next week folks!
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Post by GW_Hope on May 28, 2019 16:34:46 GMT -5
181? I had 183. Just curious That was a typo.
Just played US open course and yeah.... I'm going to have to go out and look for where the "fun" is expected to be. Most of the holes are setup where pretty much everything is rolling away from the hole. There were a couple setup where you could use the slope to work back towards the pin but for the most part the course seems to be about protecting against bogey, play to try and some how stay on the putting surface with an up hill putt, other wise expect to be putting/chipping from 20+ feet for par. Should be interesting score wise. Very easy to miss a shot and take a bogey or worse.
Thanks, I thought maybe it was different. It did happen before early on.
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Post by Brighttail on May 28, 2019 16:51:48 GMT -5
I aimed about 10 yards left of the green to allow for a slight block which I always get when I fully loft, plus a low amount of left to right wind. Not really sure what you’re complaining about? "slight block" . . . That's a good one. Pretty sure you're trolling, but whatever. You aimed 8-10 yards left of the pin with a 3-5 mph left-to-right wind. Your downswing on a fully lofted Driver was outside the channel, and the result was a ball flight that landed ten yards right of your aiming point. Accounting for wind, your outside-the-channel "slight block" only altered the flight between 3-5 yards. That's flicking comical. Full swing line outside the channel and the ball is in the right side collection area, if you're lucky. Congrats. great execution. Seriously? The vast majority of my hole-in-ones and albatrosses have come from a combination of missing my aiming point, the swing being too much right/left of center and a whole LOT of luck. His ball acted pretty much like I would expect missing the cone to the right and the ball traveling 10-15 yards to the right. The wind is negligible at this point. Not to mention that the ball had to hop and roll 30 feet to get to the hole. He missed the swing, got lucky as just about every ball holed from the tee/fairway.
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Post by Dave on May 28, 2019 17:56:13 GMT -5
I aimed about 10 yards left of the green to allow for a slight block which I always get when I fully loft, plus a low amount of left to right wind. Not really sure what you’re complaining about? "slight block" . . . That's a good one. Pretty sure you're trolling, but whatever. You aimed 8-10 yards left of the pin with a 3-5 mph left-to-right wind. Your downswing on a fully lofted Driver was outside the channel, and the result was a ball flight that landed ten yards right of your aiming point. Accounting for wind, your outside-the-channel "slight block" only altered the flight between 3-5 yards. That's flicking comical. Full swing line outside the channel and the ball is in the right side collection area, if you're lucky. Congrats. great execution.
Yes, correct, "slight block".
Had I not fully lofted, the blue line would be standard thickness and my swing line would've been pretty much inside the blue line and it would've gone straight where i was aiming. Because i lofted, the line shrunk, and the same swing line now appears to the right of the blue line, ergo the resulting "slight block".
As for trolling, not sure whats up your ass but a simple "nice shot" or even "lucky prick" would've been better received, now you've just come across as a bitter old fart that doesnt like it when someone has a good/fortunate result.
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Post by gavlaar124 on May 28, 2019 18:33:52 GMT -5
I played well in rounds 1 to 3 and bottled it on the final round. Course was fine, if you don’t try and go straight for pins on every hole, I played percentages and made sure I made birdie on the easier par 4’s and par 5’s, and didn’t make bogie on the rest. Oh, and as Mitch alluded to, these always go down well 😂😂😂 Lucky bastard 😉😉😂😂😂😂
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Post by humanecentipede on May 28, 2019 23:41:21 GMT -5
-15 Round 2 with a three putt par 5 and a couple easy missed putts. With my first top ten finish last week and good position after round 2 this week I hope I’ve turned a corner. Likely this level of scoring will be short lived though, I don’t think I’ve made any big changes, just seems like all my putts are all dropping.
Some of these greens are pretty tough for sure, I think I’ve been putting well on them because of my non-Thundercockian pace.
-23 at the cut
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