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Post by Bob Loblaw on May 8, 2019 20:49:42 GMT -5
Meanwhile other people never get even close to a straight line,yet their ball goes on line every time...hmmmmm...isn't that weird??? Really crooked lines producing beautiful on line shots?? And btw my putting beat you guys this week. Not ball striking. So keep practicing.
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Post by Doyley on May 8, 2019 20:51:21 GMT -5
PGA threads never disappoint...
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Post by GW_Hope on May 8, 2019 20:57:17 GMT -5
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Post by mrohde4 on May 8, 2019 20:58:30 GMT -5
Couple? Less than 1% I thought. 1200+ users weekly. 1% is 12 users. Go ahead...continue mocking. It’s not the percentages of guys getting pulled.... it’s the repeats. Their actions (or inactions) are contrary to the intent of the policy, and nobody hiding from the exact cause. These are the best players in the world with multiple pulls. And it empowers others who get pulled not to make changes. It’s a qualitative argument. Surely it’s a gray area, but the tours’ long term results are being skewed.
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Post by SmilingGoats on May 8, 2019 21:03:31 GMT -5
1200+ users weekly. 1% is 12 users. Go ahead...continue mocking. It’s not the percentages of guys getting pulled.... it’s the repeats. Their actions (or inactions) are contrary to the intent of the policy, and nobody hiding from the exact cause. These are the best players in the world with multiple pulls. And it empowers others who get pulled not to make changes. It’s a qualitative argument. Surely it’s a gray area, but the tours’ long term results are being skewed. I don't think that was Mitch's point in his post. My reply was an indication that I'm just tired of those calling for stricter enforcement constantly mocking the system when it does its job. You can't have it both ways. As far as the repeat offenders, I hear ya. We're aware of the issue and opinion. But it's complicated for multiple reasons and I'm happy to explain on the admin show Thursday night if you want to have that conversation.
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Post by Brighttail on May 8, 2019 21:04:11 GMT -5
I'm surprised the admins even allows us to post anymore. Thread locked in 3....2....1....
Can you post the link to that show afterwards? I'm interested in the explanation but will be out... Thanks SmilingGoats
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Post by Doyley on May 8, 2019 21:06:26 GMT -5
I'm surprised the admins even allows us to post anymore. Thread locked in 3....2....1.... I don't think so Tim
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 21:10:01 GMT -5
Wow we made it until Wednesday night this week!
*high fives all around*
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Post by mrohde4 on May 8, 2019 21:16:42 GMT -5
It’s not the percentages of guys getting pulled.... it’s the repeats. Their actions (or inactions) are contrary to the intent of the policy, and nobody hiding from the exact cause. These are the best players in the world with multiple pulls. And it empowers others who get pulled not to make changes. It’s a qualitative argument. Surely it’s a gray area, but the tours’ long term results are being skewed. I don't think that was Mitch's point in his post. My reply was an indication that I'm just tired of those calling for stricter enforcement constantly mocking the system when it does its job. You can't have it both ways. As far as the repeat offenders, I hear ya. We're aware of the issue and opinion. But it's complicated for multiple reasons and I'm happy to explain on the admin show Thursday night if you want to have that conversation. Very fair. Very fair. And thanks for the response. I’ll tune in. Our whole argument is that FPP is software that detects something “not human” and when someone is passing only, say 90% of tournaments, then there’s gotta be a line somewhere that says “ok that’s enough.” I get it’s complicated and will likely never be perfect. You guys do so much that we should all make recurring donations. Also not advocating for bans, but a drop in points or ranking is certainly not the harshest of punishments. In before.
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Post by fadgewacker on May 9, 2019 1:18:57 GMT -5
Meanwhile other people never get even close to a straight line,yet their ball goes on line every time...hmmmmm...isn't that weird??? Really crooked lines producing beautiful on line shots?? And btw my putting beat you guys this week. Not ball striking. So keep practicing. I agree with you about the others with crooked lines and straight shots, but short swinging “accurately “ sets off the API (well documented and short swing was warned as “use at your own risk”), and unless you’ve changed your game, you’re short swinging accurately. I can’t see how you’re surprised. Change your swing up to get more full lines, like some of us have, then have a go at being surprised if you get pulled. Otherwise, keep doing the same, but don’t be surprised if you get pulled again looper :/
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Post by SMIFFYLFC79 on May 9, 2019 2:07:51 GMT -5
Knew I needed a minimum of atleast -18 in first 36 holes to potentially make the cut, did not however intend on getting there the way I did. Rd1 could not get close, could not putt, actually said to myself "Why did u bother starting for?" -3 Then Tuesday Night's desire, resolve and result kicked in, -15 in rd2, although i was -12 playing 15 when a V/F from no where slammed me into the drink (Spplllosh) had to make a 16ft'r for bogey (Phew) played the last 3h in -4 So I reached -18 thru 2 and I really don't have a clue how
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Post by NinjaMonkeyIII on May 9, 2019 3:35:57 GMT -5
Meanwhile other people never get even close to a straight line,yet their ball goes on line every time...hmmmmm...isn't that weird??? Really crooked lines producing beautiful on line shots?? And btw my putting beat you guys this week. Not ball striking. So keep practicing. I agree with you about the others with crooked lines and straight shots, but short swinging “accurately “ sets off the API (well documented and short swing was warned as “use at your own risk”), and unless you’ve changed your game, you’re short swinging accurately. I can’t see how you’re surprised. Change your swing up to get more full lines, like some of us have, then have a go at being surprised if you get pulled. Otherwise, keep doing the same, but don’t be surprised if you get pulled again looper :/ I totally agree about the short swing issue and it needs to be addressed if that’s the case, however , I’ll be willing to bet my own tour card 6 days a week and twice on Sunday that looper is NOT a cheater. I’ve known and played with him more than casually 2 years counting. What sought of really stinks here is seeing his scores pulled but other 4-5 time offenders on the leaderboard. Just saying
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Post by fadgewacker on May 9, 2019 3:44:32 GMT -5
I agree with you about the others with crooked lines and straight shots, but short swinging “accurately “ sets off the API (well documented and short swing was warned as “use at your own risk”), and unless you’ve changed your game, you’re short swinging accurately. I can’t see how you’re surprised. Change your swing up to get more full lines, like some of us have, then have a go at being surprised if you get pulled. Otherwise, keep doing the same, but don’t be surprised if you get pulled again looper :/ I totally agree about the short swing issue and it needs to be addressed if that’s the case, however , I’ll be willing to bet my own tour card 6 days a week and twice on Sunday that looper is NOT a cheater. I’ve known and played with him more than casually 2 years counting. What sought of really stinks here is seeing his scores pulled but other 4-5 time offenders on the leaderboard. Just saying Oh I agree. I know he’s not a cheater. Not by a long shot. Nobody has said that, so let’s leave that one there He does (or did in the past) short swing though, and he is (or was) accurate with it. That isn’t cheating, but it can and does produce results that give an unfair advantage. Same swing in TGC2 would have been fine.
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Post by NinjaMonkeyIII on May 9, 2019 3:47:29 GMT -5
I totally agree about the short swing issue and it needs to be addressed if that’s the case, however , I’ll be willing to bet my own tour card 6 days a week and twice on Sunday that looper is NOT a cheater. I’ve known and played with him more than casually 2 years counting. What sought of really stinks here is seeing his scores pulled but other 4-5 time offenders on the leaderboard. Just saying Oh I agree. I know he’s not a cheater. Not by a long shot. Nobody has said that, so let’s leave that one there He does (or did in the past) short swing though, and he is (or was) accurate with it. That isn’t cheating, but it can and does produce results that give an unfair advantage. Same swing in TGC2 would have been fine. Absolutely , totally agree there and by no means was implying anyone accused just wanted to express my opinion.
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Post by fadgewacker on May 9, 2019 3:53:07 GMT -5
Oh I agree. I know he’s not a cheater. Not by a long shot. Nobody has said that, so let’s leave that one there He does (or did in the past) short swing though, and he is (or was) accurate with it. That isn’t cheating, but it can and does produce results that give an unfair advantage. Same swing in TGC2 would have been fine. Absolutely , totally agree there and by no means was implying anyone accused just wanted to express my opinion. 👍
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