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Post by fadgewacker on Apr 29, 2019 16:02:21 GMT -5
I hit every driver fast down and compensate with cut when needed, or at least I try to. I also hit a lot of approaches that way with a big draw. It’s a big reason I’m so sh%$, I’m sure, but I like the creativity that it brings and it makes me feel good, banging it out there past other puny ghosts. I think I'd like to see you stream and count the times you hit an approach shot with a purpose fast tempo. Especially inside 200 yards - I have a hard time believing you do this on purpose (on approach shots) for any club you can dial a distance with loft. Not sure which game you play mate, but I have gaps using loft, so I use fast downswings to get there. Can also play big high lofted draws to get at tight pins etc (sometimes). It’s a thing, or at least it is for me. I’ll stream some garbage golf for you some time. I’m an idiot.
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Post by Doyley on Apr 29, 2019 16:13:18 GMT -5
I think I'd like to see you stream and count the times you hit an approach shot with a purpose fast tempo. Especially inside 200 yards - I have a hard time believing you do this on purpose (on approach shots) for any club you can dial a distance with loft. Not sure which game you play mate, but I have gaps using loft, so I use fast downswings to get there. Can also play big high lofted draws to get at tight pins etc (sometimes). It’s a thing, or at least it is for me. I’ll stream some garbage golf for you some time. I’m an idiot. I don't doubt you do, but looking at your rounds - it's not nearly as often as you make it out to be.
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Post by fadgewacker on Apr 29, 2019 16:26:31 GMT -5
Not sure which game you play mate, but I have gaps using loft, so I use fast downswings to get there. Can also play big high lofted draws to get at tight pins etc (sometimes). It’s a thing, or at least it is for me. I’ll stream some garbage golf for you some time. I’m an idiot. I don't doubt you do, but looking at your rounds - it's not nearly as often as you make it out to be. 😂 I’m obviously not as good at it as I’d like to be Scott! PS4 with Fadge - when you can’t even get a fast when you want one, but the world has tempo on a string 😂 Edit - no way do I go for 20% of approaches fast. They’re situational. Off the tee, yes. The percentage is higher thank 50% I’d hazard a guess - this is usually done on purpose, which isn’t what XB has to handle.
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Post by CuseHokie on Apr 29, 2019 16:29:28 GMT -5
Sorry if this is a dumb question but does Xbox have a standard USB connection or are they still using proprietary connections (ala to charge controller)? My last Xbox was the 360 and that was the case then.
TLDR - just wondering if MS is big on reinventing the wheel versus using say micro USB.
I’m assuming everyone on Xbox plays with a wire connected to their controller? I would have even more random tempo on PS4 without it.
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Post by wmr5277 on Apr 29, 2019 17:14:54 GMT -5
Yikes. Usually I play all 4 rounds at once. But not this time.
Couldn't get off the tee to save my life. And when I did hit a FW I never capitalized. Always had 40 footers. Fasts galore and some weird pulls which is unusual for me.
67.86% FIR thru 2 rds. Gewww...7600 yards from the deep rough all day just ain't going to cut it.
Made some 12 footers for once and feel very fortunate to be at -18 thru 2 rds considering I had to get up and down on par 4s from 100 yards on quite a few holes just to salvage par.
Great course. Always love courses with no 1st cut. If you get rolling and keep it in play here you can go low since all flags are accessible.
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Post by Brighttail on Apr 29, 2019 17:19:19 GMT -5
Surprising myself with how much XB1 is below even PC at the high end of tempo - think mouse users can skew the PC numbers up as they have an easier time with it. You are partially right. It is really a balancing act. You can lower DPI to produce a straighter line but doing that makes it super hard not to get slow back/down swings. Originally 800 DPI was more than enough to have a good tempo but just to combat the slows many of us are 1300-3000 now. Of course the offset of that is increasing the difficulty of a straight shot. To further complicate things, the transition tempo between the back and down swing is not DPI related but related to how far you pull/push the mouse. With a controller that distance has a maximum and is pretty finite on how much you can adjust. After much testing you can get a perfect/perfect from a swing that is 1/4 inch back, 1/2 inch forward or 2 inches back and 2 1/2 inches forward. All that has to happen within a specific amount of time for that perfect tempo. In short, the distance you cover on pull back and push forward has to be pretty much the same. 1/4 inch too much either way can throw it all off.
No guidelines, all trial and error and practice. Push forward too slow, get a slow, push forward too fast, get a fast....but if the transition is off all that I said previous can be literally reversed. Very frustrating at times. So yes, Doyley we can skew the numbers up a bit to help straightness but tempo is all about the distance the mouse travels in a particular period of time with a particular DPI. Change one of those variables and everything changes. Not to mention a spec of dirt or cat hair on the lens or under one of the silicone feet can produce some very interesting swings.
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Post by fadgewacker on Apr 29, 2019 17:37:05 GMT -5
That amazes me that anybody genuine would actual TRY for perfect tempo the whole way round. I rely on fasts (back and down) in order to make up distances and miss loads of fairways and greens. The following data is from Promo event (Master club users) . Number of rounds with 100% perfect downswings PS4: 49 (1520) = 12.9% PC: 7 (420) = 1.7% XB1: 0 (683) = 0 % Number of rounds with 90%+ perfect downswings PS4: 502 (1520) = 33% PC: 49 (425) = 11.6% XB1: 0 (683) = 0% Number of rounds with 80%+ perfect downswings PS4: 936 (1520) = 61.6% PC: 153 (425) = 36% XB1: 13 (683) = 1.9% Highest XB1 tempo was 87.5% Are those numbers total shots, or just approaches?
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Post by Doyley on Apr 29, 2019 17:51:19 GMT -5
Are those numbers total shots, or just approaches? All shots for those numbers
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Post by SmilingGoats on Apr 29, 2019 18:27:37 GMT -5
Are those numbers total shots, or just approaches? All shots for those numbers Drives and approaches. No chips or flops or pitches.
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Post by Brighttail on Apr 29, 2019 20:56:31 GMT -5
Finally got to practice this course a few times. Our area here in Canada is quite literally flooding everywhere and like many other communities, ours declared an emergency. The Canadian Army was out filling and placing sandbags in our area because we have only one road in or out to about 200 houses. The water is right up to the edge of part of the road and if it goes over, we will be cut off. I went and got a weeks worth of supplies with more canned goods as a just in case. Then I stopped off at Timmies and got the group of 20 a couple of containers of coffee and Timbits. They were so grateful they each came to shake my hand to say thanks, to which I replied to each, "No, thank you." These guys n gals are the true heroes. When they finished with our road they had 8 others to go do and there were 12 other crews all over the area as well. There is quite literally tanks and armoured personnel carriers in the streets. Pretty scary.
So if you are out in the communities that are being effected and you can afford it, give some coffee and treats to those helping others.
That being said I shot -6, -8, -14 in practice so I have no idea what I'll shoot in tourney.
Here is a pix of how close the water is to our only access road.
Oh if you ever wanted to know what our military looks like?
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Post by GW_Hope on Apr 29, 2019 21:07:03 GMT -5
Like I’ve said many times. HB ruined their own game. All these issues with XBOX and short swing falls on them yet nobody is on their forum complaining. I hope you all realize nothing will change unless they are barraged by complaints. Yes, they ignore or lock you down but you have to believe their publisher sees this as well. It doesn’t take much effort to post there so do it. If they could only marriage TGC2 swing with 2019 game we would have something legitimate.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2019 0:02:08 GMT -5
That amazes me that anybody genuine would actual TRY for perfect tempo the whole way round. I rely on fasts (back and down) in order to make up distances and miss loads of fairways and greens. The following data is from Promo event (Master club users) . Number of rounds with 100% perfect downswings PS4: 49 (1520) = 12.9% PC: 7 (420) = 1.7% XB1: 0 (683) = 0 % Number of rounds with 90%+ perfect downswings PS4: 502 (1520) = 33% PC: 49 (425) = 11.6% XB1: 0 (683) = 0% Number of rounds with 80%+ perfect downswings PS4: 936 (1520) = 61.6% PC: 153 (425) = 36% XB1: 13 (683) = 1.9% Highest XB1 tempo was 87.5% Pretty safe bet you aren't relying on over 20% of your shots being off tempo during a round like the XB1 guys are (at the high end). Most have 30-40% of their downswings off tempo. Surprising myself with how much XB1 is below even PC at the high end of tempo - think mouse users can skew the PC numbers up as they have an easier time with it. Absolutely crazy that in the TGCT promo event, which by definition excludes the top 150 or so PGA players, there were 49 rounds that had 100% perfect tempo on PS4 with master clubs. Craziest stat I've seen on this subject in fact.
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Post by moneyman273 on Apr 30, 2019 8:58:46 GMT -5
The people who designed, scheduled and rangered this course need to spend the rest of their lives being waterboarded in Guantanamo Bay! 173 greens are you f-ing kidding me?!!? What kind of diabolical scheming scumbag would set a green to that kind of clown number?? I would have had -86 if the greens worked but no, in the end and due to no fault of my own since I am in the PGA and therefore flawless, I ended up with a humiliating -38. Seriously though I didn't play well, but all obviously ( obviously) 100% my own doing, not just awful putting but I misjudged the wind a lot. Strong chance I'll be cutline-watching with -18 after 2. Best of luck all, let's see if we can get a lock-free, drama-free thread this week I took the time to read the Zurich thread. Absolutely brilliant, made for the internet drama. The human race astounds me each and every day
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Post by speedygus on Apr 30, 2019 10:12:13 GMT -5
Long life to my friend fadgewaker who him don't have any problem with Tempo Always here, always happy always friend with his CUT....or NOT...
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Post by xEB50x on Apr 30, 2019 10:44:22 GMT -5
Like I’ve said many times. HB ruined their own game. All these issues with XBOX and short swing falls on them yet nobody is on their forum complaining. I hope you all realize nothing will change unless they are barraged by complaints. Yes, they ignore or lock you down but you have to believe their publisher sees this as well. It doesn’t take much effort to post there so do it. If they could only marriage TGC2 swing with 2019 game we would have something legitimate. Xboxer's had many threads on the HB site for months requesting information or some type of adjustments to our tempo, but they straight up blew us off! They showed no concern. My impression was that they do not care about cross platform play (TGCTours) They believe that it does not matter for their game set up and societies if xbox is only playing xbox. However, as we all know, most of us would never have stuck with this game if it wasn't for TGCTours. I took a big step back in my hours played this season, only playing the rounds needed for tours and societies. I have not played a round for fun in months. Last game I would play new courses and participated in cross platform societies. In fact due to their blatant disregard to our issues, I quit playing for a month. Only tours during that time.
So, yes a lot of us voiced our concern, but it fell on def ears. If the next version is not balanced I fear many xboxer's will walk away from this great tour, as it seems like a pointless grind knowing your at a substantial disadvantage on the first tee.
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