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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 12:10:50 GMT -5
If anybody ever asks "so what's the PGA tour like?", just give them the url for this thread, it's got the lot and it hasn't even been a day yet
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 12:29:59 GMT -5
Im stating facts dude. You and the VOLUNTEERS know what goes on. But to keep the fluffy unicorn world happy choose to do nothing. Did i not go back and say how the course played great on 163s. 152s are a shitty number as were 180 last week. The 187s played great. The games more to blame than the designer but alot of designers steer clear or just pick the shitty numbers to give there course false teeth. I think ive done quite well holding my words for this long to be honest. Did you or did you not get flagged for hitting it" to well" last week too bob. Not straight but too well. I said to ppl at the tgct that they have too grey areas and they police it black and white to get "if you dont like it, don't play" attitude. Is it run by politicians!!!!!! This simply shows that you have a good system for certain speeds and not others if you ask me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 12:30:37 GMT -5
If anybody ever asks "so what's the PGA tour like?", just give them the url for this thread, it's got the lot and it hasn't even been a day yet I'll do my best to make you proud!
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Post by SweetTeeBag on Apr 21, 2019 12:42:41 GMT -5
Think if we had a course where the winner shot -25
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 12:49:48 GMT -5
Think if we had a course where the winner shot -25 Which round?
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Post by donkeypuncherben on Apr 21, 2019 12:55:06 GMT -5
I dont expect to win every week ben, far from it. Its an uphill battle playing against the short swing already. If it wss just a case of you being able to swing that way fair enough but when you can rig your pad by taping up the front of the swing stick to guarantee the short swing it takes out all integrity to ppl who short swing it and opens it up to accusations. It goes laser straight even on a full swing making the tour a farce. You may aswell just say straight shooting is aloud. The api doesnt pick it up either. Its like a built in scipt.mapping is when ppl use 2nd accounts on different systems to judge shots top hole per wind etc no exactly how many boxes or clicks to move it and how to loft shots to hit best approaches. Leaving yourself on the best side of the hole. This whole mapping thing sounds crazy to me. Is it really that much of an advantage over just setting up a practice round with the exact settings? I can't imagine someone actually invests in multiple systems to do this and gains much of an information advantage. The modified controller thing I haven't heard of until you just explained it, but yeah that sounds like BS. Is this something people actually admitted to doing or what?
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Apr 21, 2019 12:58:39 GMT -5
I’m going to need a list of “shitty” speeds to avoid going forward. Until now I didn’t realize there was such a thing. Does the number have to be divisible by some other number determined by some sort of Canadian equation?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 13:03:07 GMT -5
I dont expect to win every week ben, far from it. Its an uphill battle playing against the short swing already. If it wss just a case of you being able to swing that way fair enough but when you can rig your pad by taping up the front of the swing stick to guarantee the short swing it takes out all integrity to ppl who short swing it and opens it up to accusations. It goes laser straight even on a full swing making the tour a farce. You may aswell just say straight shooting is aloud. The api doesnt pick it up either. Its like a built in scipt.mapping is when ppl use 2nd accounts on different systems to judge shots top hole per wind etc no exactly how many boxes or clicks to move it and how to loft shots to hit best approaches. Leaving yourself on the best side of the hole. This whole mapping thing sounds crazy to me. Is it really that much of an advantage over just setting up a practice round with the exact settings? I can't imagine someone actually invests in multiple systems to do this and gains much of an information advantage. The modified controller thing I haven't heard of until you just explained it, but yeah that sounds like BS. Is this something people actually admitted to doing or what? Playing the exact conditions in the exact event on another name/system to gain access to precise adjustments is poor form, but I do agree that one can simply take the time in practice to know the course, bounces, etc. inside and out for any given week if they spend enough time on it.
Case in point is week 3 on TST this season. Their only TGCT event, and the community lambasted this person to not playing again since because of their mapping methods. I have no qualms with it if truly done in practice: TST runaway victory
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Post by donkeypuncherben on Apr 21, 2019 13:07:03 GMT -5
The TST scenario was kind of different because there's no way to know if the guy wasn't just pausing and then seeing the same putt with a grid on a different system.
For this tour, you already have so many aids with the approach camera, lie camera, and green grids that the additional information doesn't seem like much of a difference.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 13:17:16 GMT -5
The TST scenario was kind of different because there's no way to know if the guy wasn't just pausing and then seeing the same putt with a grid on a different system. For this tour, you already have so many aids with the approach camera, lie camera, and green grids that the additional information doesn't seem like much of a difference. I don't know that with ANYONE, though, if I were to use the pitchfork mentality line of thinking that went on.
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Post by hippystein on Apr 21, 2019 13:24:21 GMT -5
The game just doesnt pick up the breaks when changed too much from default setting and thats when you het hover balls and ghost breaks. It will show break and lines not play. Alot of the designers do this to play messed up on purpose. Youve played this game long enough justin. When your designing next set you greens at 182 and practice them. They play what feels quicker than 187s and the break has a mind of its own. Like i said your course plays great on 163's. But because youre in the grey .game thinks its med fast but some play fast and vice versa. Its more luck than judgement on them unfortunately. I know designers specifically choose funky numbers so game plays wrong. Thats all!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 13:27:20 GMT -5
The game just doesnt pick up the breaks when changed too much from default setting and thats when you het hover balls and ghost breaks. It will show break and lines not play. Alot of the designers do this to play messed up on purpose. Youve played this game long enough justin. When your designing next set you greens at 182 and practice them. They play what feels quicker than 187s and the break has a mind of its own. Like i said your course plays great on 163's. But because youre in the grey .game thinks its med fast but some play fast and vice versa. Its more luck than judgement on them unfortunately. I know designers specifically choose funky numbers so game plays wrong. Thats all!! Forgive my ignorance, but what is the "default setting"? I assumed that since the designer set them at 152 and the Society used 'Default', that they were... well... default 152.
Do you mean setting as one of the "preset" speeds of 187, 163, 144, etc?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 13:29:09 GMT -5
I’m going to need a list of “shitty” speeds to avoid going forward. Until now I didn’t realize there was such a thing. Does the number have to be divisible by some other number determined by some sort of Canadian equation? I putted poorly in my rounds, so I advocate for 152 on this list!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2019 13:31:59 GMT -5
Case in point is week 3 on TST this season. Their only TGCT event, and the community lambasted this person to not playing again since because of their mapping methods. I have no qualms with it if truly done in practice: TST runaway victory
Yep that was a damn shame, one of the low points of TGCT history imo. The dude has legitimately-diagnosed severe OCD and was actually really helpful with providing all kinds of advice and charts for others, never had a bad word to say about anybody and was always 100% honest about his practice mapping approach. How practising and taking notes on a course came to be seen as some kind of underhand tactic by anybody is truly beyond me.
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Post by hippystein on Apr 21, 2019 13:49:37 GMT -5
Yes bob 187 163 144. Etc they are standard default greenspeeds and when you design you can change yours to make a 4th. Same with firmness. You can have loads of different firms and normals etc. Some just play crazy. You look at the putting averages at joes last week the putting was arguably better on 187s than on the 180s. If the game adjusted accurately you could set a 152 with no problem but it doesnt.
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