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Post by Celtic Wolf on Mar 14, 2019 18:07:36 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind missing out on The Masters because I'm not a fan of it in any of it's forms.
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Post by ErixonStone on Mar 16, 2019 7:59:45 GMT -5
I agree with the OP here. Be realistic guys... The people who will end up qualifying for the Masters are likely going to be Pro club users. They will play The Masters tournament with Master clubs and will find themselves at the bottom of the leaderboard because they are not accustomed to competing with master clubs and their shots will be ALL over the place. I agree that the winners will likely be pro club users, I do not believe it is likely that those players "will find themselves at the bottom of the leaderboard because they are not accustomed to competing with master clubs and their shots will be ALL over the place." The history of Pro-Club players who have been promoted to the Pro tours suggests that it is likely that they'll do ok. They may ultimately miss the cut or finish near the bottom, but that would most likely have to do with being a CC player playing in a PGA Major field. What I don't understand is this idea that TGCTours needs to do something to incentivize using Master Clubs. Why should this site make modifications which would take loads of effort to address this when the option to use Pro Clubs is available to all players?
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Post by Giraffe72 on Mar 16, 2019 8:13:45 GMT -5
What I don't understand is how consistently stubborn you are Patrick, and your refusal to ever listen to any suggestions by anybody. It's a perfectly reasonable idea. People play Masters clubs because they enjoy the challenge more, despite the fact they know they are hamstrung against a large part of the field. This would have required no change to how the tour operates week to week but would have just given a bit back to all those who don't want to play golf on rails. This is the Masters, which will require Masters clubs to play. I know of many Pro club players who do really well but would point blank refuse to play Masters clubs because they don't enjoy it. That's fair enough, but not much good if they qualify for this tournament.
But hey ho, apparently this is too much to ask. Sorry for bothering you.
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Post by Koop on Mar 16, 2019 10:04:30 GMT -5
I agree with the OP here. Be realistic guys... The people who will end up qualifying for the Masters are likely going to be Pro club users. They will play The Masters tournament with Master clubs and will find themselves at the bottom of the leaderboard because they are not accustomed to competing with master clubs and their shots will be ALL over the place. I agree that the winners will likely be pro club users, I do not believe it is likely that those players "will find themselves at the bottom of the leaderboard because they are not accustomed to competing with master clubs and their shots will be ALL over the place." The history of Pro-Club players who have been promoted to the Pro tours suggests that it is likely that they'll do ok. They may ultimately miss the cut or finish near the bottom, but that would most likely have to do with being a CC player playing in a PGA Major field. What I don't understand is this idea that TGCTours needs to do something to incentivize using Master Clubs. Why should this site make modifications which would take loads of effort to address this when the option to use Pro Clubs is available to all players? But let's face it, this it a CC-AM/CC-PRO problem. Those that compete against masters club user only(and you know who they are) don't care, it doesn't effect them. It's easy to remain status quo when it doesn't effect you. And that's the way it will stay. So bottom line is this, if you are a CC player use Pro club...... that is it. I have made it bold, italics & underlined for easy reference. (just my humble opinion) Am I making friends yet?
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Post by sid snott on Mar 16, 2019 10:50:27 GMT -5
Friends Koop Don't care what clubs people use. Every one should use what clubs they are comfortable & happy with.
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Post by Giraffe72 on Mar 16, 2019 10:59:48 GMT -5
Friends  Koop Don't care what clubs people use. Every one should use what clubs they are comfortable & happy with. I completely agree, but that wasn't the point of the original post
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Post by Koop on Mar 16, 2019 11:02:32 GMT -5
Friends Koop Don't care what clubs people use. Every one should use what clubs they are comfortable & happy with. I completely agree, but that wasn't the point of the original post True that, sorry, wasn't trying to hijack the thread, just seemed to fit together.
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Post by Celtic Wolf on Mar 16, 2019 13:34:30 GMT -5
What I don't understand is how consistently stubborn you are Patrick, and your refusal to ever listen to any suggestions by anybody. At first I thought this was for me, and asked myself what have I said to get the Sunday name treatment 😂. I'm trying out the master clubs on non tour rounds to get myself used to them in preparation for the future.
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Post by Giraffe72 on Mar 16, 2019 13:59:18 GMT -5
What I don't understand is how consistently stubborn you are Patrick, and your refusal to ever listen to any suggestions by anybody. At first I thought this was for me, and asked myself what have I said to get the Sunday name treatment 😂. I'm trying out the master clubs on non tour rounds to get myself used to them in preparation for the future. Ha ha, no 😂 Although you don't like The Masters??
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Post by Celtic Wolf on Mar 16, 2019 14:20:28 GMT -5
At first I thought this was for me, and asked myself what have I said to get the Sunday name treatment 😂. I'm trying out the master clubs on non tour rounds to get myself used to them in preparation for the future. Ha ha, no 😂 Although you don't like The Masters?? I'm too late to be trying out master clubs for The Masters, I'm thinking further down the line. Maybe sometime when I've no set up an event and don't mind picking up a few red marks.
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Post by Giraffe72 on Mar 16, 2019 14:32:33 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind missing out on The Masters because I'm not a fan of it in any of it's forms. No, I meant this post, not the club set! One of my favourite weeks of the year!
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Post by Celtic Wolf on Mar 16, 2019 14:42:52 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind missing out on The Masters because I'm not a fan of it in any of it's forms. No, I meant this post, not the club set! One of my favourite weeks of the year! I don't mind it much IRL, I remember I had a nightmare on it last year and didn't like it in the TW game years ago.
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Post by rhino4life on Mar 17, 2019 15:29:21 GMT -5
There was an uproar when they split off the beginners clubs for their own tour...... I think they can do it. And it would be great! Don't see this changing for Season 5 but definitely under consideration for next season assuming it's still the same for the next game (assuming there is a next game). Thank God....
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Post by rhino4life on Mar 17, 2019 15:35:21 GMT -5
I agree with the OP here. Be realistic guys... The people who will end up qualifying for the Masters are likely going to be Pro club users. They will play The Masters tournament with Master clubs and will find themselves at the bottom of the leaderboard because they are not accustomed to competing with master clubs and their shots will be ALL over the place. I agree that the winners will likely be pro club users, I do not believe it is likely that those players "will find themselves at the bottom of the leaderboard because they are not accustomed to competing with master clubs and their shots will be ALL over the place." The history of Pro-Club players who have been promoted to the Pro tours suggests that it is likely that they'll do ok. They may ultimately miss the cut or finish near the bottom, but that would most likely have to do with being a CC player playing in a PGA Major field. What I don't understand is this idea that TGCTours needs to do something to incentivize using Master Clubs. Why should this site make modifications which would take loads of effort to address this when the option to use Pro Clubs is available to all players? Never seen so many opinions of what to do or not do on tours from a person who doesnt even play. 🙄
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Post by Doyley on Mar 17, 2019 16:24:16 GMT -5
Just posted how to qualify for Masters in sticky - top 2 master club users from Pro and Am will get in (4 in total) from the Masters Qualifying Tournament
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