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Post by GW_Hope on Jan 31, 2019 21:33:23 GMT -5
Played two rounds at -9 and -13 to be -22 at the halfway point. Played the full shots trying to hit the top of the feedback circle. Very different and not at all used to it, so I was adjusting as I went. Lots of fast downswings in there, so adjusting for that. Even when trying to hit the top of the circle I get the loud *thump* of hitting the top of the plastic, but 1/2 the time the line is still only 2/3 to 3/4 of the way up the circle and you can often then see the recoil line coming back. Not sure how much firmer to push up on the downswing to get that line to the top as the harder I tried to do that, the worse the fast downswings were. I had a like 2-3 full shots where I didn't think and had a normal swing, but 90% of them I was going for the full line, so it is a work in progress. Very herky jerky and feel like I am trying to manhandle the swing instead of grooving it. Putts I stayed with my normal stroke and you can see the difference as those are all 2/3 of a feedback line.
Made a charge of -5 over the last 4 holes to race in and feel safe within the cutline. 2nd round I started to get it under control with the revamped swing, but lots and lots of work to do as it was a ton of adjusting on the fly. Don't think the zombies helped the tempo, but it was likely my fault on a lot of those fast tempos.
I have my rounds saved on the PS4 hard drive and will try to get them up here if anyone even cares when I get home from work tonight. I commend you for trying to change up your swing. Not an easy task. I read your description and am having trouble comprehending. I realize you use a different style and everybody is probably a bit different but I just want to post my video of my swing just to show you the speed. You say you are slamming the plastic. That’s seems not very fun. On my swing I do tap the plastic or touch it. In this video I may even be pushing it a tad harder than normal because I normally don’t have the controller up in the air. In reality all it takes it a nice smooth motion. There really isn’t a lot of difference from backswing to downswing unless I really want to hit a fast. Just give it a try, there is no jerky jerky, flicks slams going on, only a relaxing motion. You might find it easier to find a tempo groove. I rarely am off almost always P/P. Except this week.
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Post by SweetTeeBag on Jan 31, 2019 21:48:51 GMT -5
Played two rounds at -9 and -13 to be -22 at the halfway point. Played the full shots trying to hit the top of the feedback circle. Very different and not at all used to it, so I was adjusting as I went. Lots of fast downswings in there, so adjusting for that. Even when trying to hit the top of the circle I get the loud *thump* of hitting the top of the plastic, but 1/2 the time the line is still only 2/3 to 3/4 of the way up the circle and you can often then see the recoil line coming back. Not sure how much firmer to push up on the downswing to get that line to the top as the harder I tried to do that, the worse the fast downswings were. I had a like 2-3 full shots where I didn't think and had a normal swing, but 90% of them I was going for the full line, so it is a work in progress. Very herky jerky and feel like I am trying to manhandle the swing instead of grooving it. Putts I stayed with my normal stroke and you can see the difference as those are all 2/3 of a feedback line.
Made a charge of -5 over the last 4 holes to race in and feel safe within the cutline. 2nd round I started to get it under control with the revamped swing, but lots and lots of work to do as it was a ton of adjusting on the fly. Don't think the zombies helped the tempo, but it was likely my fault on a lot of those fast tempos.
I have my rounds saved on the PS4 hard drive and will try to get them up here if anyone even cares when I get home from work tonight. Why change Bob when you are doing nothing wrong. I could see if you got flagged by the API but fact is your not. Play your game. Not what people want or think you should do. Carry on...
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Post by GW_Hope on Jan 31, 2019 23:18:16 GMT -5
Tim you are right, but many have been getting flagged so maybe that is a concern of his? I wish it wasn’t a thing but it is so if he wants to shoot that way that’s his choice. My argument is with HB not Bob or anybody else. I’ll leave it at that and don’t want to get into it anymore. Peace.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 0:53:59 GMT -5
Tim you are right, but many have been getting flagged so maybe that is a concern of his? I wish it wasn’t a thing but it is so if he wants to shoot that way that’s his choice. My argument is with HB not Bob or anybody else. I’ll leave it at that and don’t want to get into it anymore. Peace. Not especially worried about getting API flagged. Guess at the least I am getting practice in in case something changes *shrug*. I'll give this a few weeks and then re-evaluate later on how I want to move forward. I might be close to API pulls with my short swing, might not, idk to be honest.
Five vids. In order:
1) R1 H1 to H9
2) R1 H10 to H18 3) R2 H1 to H9 4) R2 H10 to H13 (partial 14 tee shot)
5) R2 H14 to H18 (starts with approach into #14)
Notes: You can see the recoil on most every shot of the hitting the platic and the resetting of the analog moving back to center/neutral. Not sure why I can get that full line sometimes and not others. All the tee shots and full shot approaches save for a handful (maybe 3) were consciously trying to lengthen the swing out where the other three I forgot about it and did my normal routine and didn't remember to try to lengthen it out. If you look at the putts, that is my more traditional "short" swing.
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Post by humanecentipede on Feb 1, 2019 18:19:21 GMT -5
On the other hand, I’ve been trying to replicate the short swing as it looks like I’ll be middle of the pack PGA forever unless I get that edge. Does anyone have any advice or is it just subtle differences between DS4s? I’ve spent a lot of time altering tempo, grip, flicking, etc and I can’t get any other result besides a long white line to the top of the circle.
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Post by Generic_Casual on Feb 1, 2019 18:23:02 GMT -5
😳😳
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Post by fadgewacker on Feb 1, 2019 18:26:34 GMT -5
On the other hand, I’ve been trying to replicate the short swing as it looks like I’ll be middle of the pack PGA forever unless I get that edge. Does anyone have any advice or is it just subtle differences between DS4s? I’ve spent a lot of time altering tempo, grip, flicking, etc and I can’t get any other result besides a long white line to the top of the circle. Back to the safety of your overhead shelter you go... biscuit-less, despite your best efforts.
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Post by humanecentipede on Feb 1, 2019 18:40:17 GMT -5
I’m not sure what’s wrong with trying, there are lots of people doing it. I was disappointed at first with the exploit but I’m not just going to sit idly while people take advantage of it and beat me. You can be critical but I was just asking an honest question.
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Post by fadgewacker on Feb 1, 2019 18:46:58 GMT -5
I’m not sure what’s wrong with trying, there are lots of people doing it. I was disappointed at first with the exploit but I’m not just going to sit idly while people take advantage of it and beat me. You can be critical but I was just asking an honest question. Wasn’t sure if you were serious, and don’t mean to be unfairly critical. Still not sure. But each to their own.
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Post by humanecentipede on Feb 1, 2019 18:56:52 GMT -5
I guess I’m just seriously curious about how people get the short swing. I’m having plenty of fun just playing normally, I don’t have any crazy desire to use it. I don’t understand how I can’t even replicate it one time though.
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Post by fadgewacker on Feb 1, 2019 19:01:26 GMT -5
I guess I’m just seriously curious about how people get the short swing. I’m having plenty of fun just playing normally, I don’t have any crazy desire to use it. I don’t understand how I can’t even replicate it one time though. You play on which platform?
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Post by humanecentipede on Feb 1, 2019 19:02:36 GMT -5
PS4
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Post by fadgewacker on Feb 1, 2019 19:08:34 GMT -5
Hmm, ok. Surprising you can’t do it then. You must have a bad controller, in a good API way. Unlucky.
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Feb 1, 2019 19:49:43 GMT -5
I’m not sure what’s wrong with trying, there are lots of people doing it. I was disappointed at first with the exploit but I’m not just going to sit idly while people take advantage of it and beat me. You can be critical but I was just asking an honest question. I don't rely on it, and seem to do OK most weeks. That's not what you need to do for the next big step up in performance, IMO, it's more about putting at this level, then being able to "feel" shot variances and how to play certain shots to get it close/set yourself up best. Yea, the flick is an advantage at times, but it doesn't automatically make you competitive in the top half here if you can't do the other things, too.
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Post by humanecentipede on Feb 1, 2019 20:16:21 GMT -5
I’m not sure what’s wrong with trying, there are lots of people doing it. I was disappointed at first with the exploit but I’m not just going to sit idly while people take advantage of it and beat me. You can be critical but I was just asking an honest question. I don't rely on it, and seem to do OK most weeks. That's not what you need to do for the next big step up in performance, IMO, it's more about putting at this level, then being able to "feel" shot variances and how to play certain shots to get it close/set yourself up best. Yea, the flick is an advantage at times, but it doesn't automatically make you competitive in the top half here if you can't do the other things, too. I feel like my putting is the strongest part of my game, it’s the only reason I made it to the PGA I think. But when the greens aren’t receptive and a straight shot is the only thing that can get you close I can’t execute. I very rarely hit a straight shot even though my tempo is consistent. When Swaeromotion just posted about trying to change his swing to get away from the short swing he was met with replies like “play your swing man, don’t worry about changing”, but when I seek advice to try and replicate his swing I’m met with a little bit of judgement. Like I said, I’m having fun playing, I’m not ultra motivated to change my swing. But I am curious about trying something new and maybe in the process scoring a little better.
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