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Post by Violinguy69 on Dec 12, 2018 16:06:48 GMT -5
No par 3 should ever have a blind tee shot. Agreed with everything except for this part. Prestwick #5Sweetens Cove #4Friar's Head #10 (down the page some)I think the trick is to make the green large enough (~90 yards deep in these cases) to allow enough room for error, and have it play differently based on the pin positions, so sometimes they are fully blind, sometimes they are partially blind, sometimes they are in full view. As long as I can see the top of the flag, or a least have a very good yardage book with today's hole location, I suppose that's fine. I don't need to see the green surface, but I do need something visual to aim at. On most of my courses, I'll put a bunker (not in play) or some trees to aim at. Blind shots definitely have their place. St. Andrews has almost 100% blind shots from the tees. I've spoken to people who have played there, and they all tell me to definitely use a caddy and take his advice. All you see from the tees are fairway with some mounds and bunkers here or there. For old-timey links golf, blind tee shots are expected. I just prefer to see where I'm hitting it (that's what she said).
The 6th at Pebble used to be a much better hole before they lost that tree. At least you could use it to aim. IRL, now you just have to basically hit it and pray. We're lucky in the video game because we're already aimed correctly before we hit it.
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Post by rjwils30 on Dec 13, 2018 2:51:41 GMT -5
As they say “it’s only blind the first time you play it”. Unfortunately most courses only get played once...as such I try to limit the number of blind shots, but also like to create variable visibility from different parts of the fairway. Love hitting over a big hip in the fairway with a green tucked in behind. Creating kind of peek a boo conditions is always fun.
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Post by linkslover on Dec 13, 2018 8:24:58 GMT -5
I remember playing a league match away at a local club a few years back. It was the first time both my partner and I played the 9 hole course.
We came to the 9th, a 200 odd yards par 3 up a steep hill. Completely blind with a marker post. I pulled out a 3 iron accounting for the rise in elevation. I nailed it straight over the marker post, only for one of our opponents to tell me it was going to be on the wrong green. I was fuming. Sure enough when I got up there, it was on the edge of the 4th green which is about 20-30 yards further left than the 9th green. We had the last laugh though. My partner rolled in a putt the whole length of the green for a 2 and win the 9th. Then on the back 9 I lipped out for a third consecutive 2 (pars 3, 4 and 3) as we went on to win 2&1.
Anyway, a terrible example of a blind tee shot. Hit over the marker post and end up on the wrong green.
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Post by joegolferg on Dec 13, 2018 12:37:37 GMT -5
Personally, I love blind tee shots and approaches. And think having blind shots adds a nice bit of variety and excitement to a round, especially for TST! Obviously, you have to help guide the player in the direction of the green, but that is very easily done via tree lines, objects and generally seeing your way point. I design an Alps template on every single course I build, and it has quickly become one of my favorite holes to build in the game. Alps holes specialize in giving you a blind approach to the green instead of a blind tee shot. They can be created in such a way that the approach doesn't have to look boring or bland. I usually build these types of holes looking into the direction of the sun so that you can see the contours of the elevations that block the view from the green, this can be a minor appeasement to those who dislike blind shots. As RJ mentioned, building blind greens that peek into view from the fairway are also a minor appeasement to non fans. Here is a detailed article about Alps holes, all of which have blind approach shots. It's all very subjective at the end of the day but, I prefer courses to have at least one blind shot in the round just to vary things. www.friedegg.co/golf-courses/template-holes-the-alps
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Post by joegolferg on Dec 13, 2018 13:02:48 GMT -5
Arguably the greatest blind shot hole in golf...
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Post by mrvinegar206 on Dec 13, 2018 20:14:42 GMT -5
"Blind shots are only blind the first time you play them"
I'm not against anyone using blind shots so long as it makes sense.
Uphill tee shot? You're good.
Dune in the way? You're good.
Random mound right in front of tee box that looks more afterthought while building than intentional? That's a no-go
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