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Post by jeffbdvs on Nov 30, 2018 7:39:25 GMT -5
I haven’t seen a definitive explanation how you even get a fast swing or what causes it, is it the change over at the top that’s either fast or slow or is it the actual speed of the downswing being too fast or slow or is it all relative to the speed of the backswing. Great question, Les!
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Post by liamgriff74 on Nov 30, 2018 7:57:56 GMT -5
It’s gone from being my favourite game to an unplayable inconsistent rage fest no enjoyment whatsoever
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Post by alexandre on Nov 30, 2018 8:28:17 GMT -5
I'm on that vibe too. However, I bought a PS4PRO this week and am having fun with other games. And I already hope to buy Read Dead 2. since I play TGC on PC, now I've opted for the professional clubs and I'll stay at the CCA without stress. I want to be happy!
I will not buy TGC2019 for PS4.
It’s gone from being my favourite game to an unplayable inconsistent rage fest no enjoyment whatsoever
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Post by ErixonStone on Nov 30, 2018 8:59:13 GMT -5
I haven’t seen a definitive explanation how you even get a fast swing or what causes it, is it the change over at the top that’s either fast or slow or is it the actual speed of the downswing being too fast or slow or is it all relative to the speed of the backswing. Speed of moving the thumbstick forward.
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Post by liamgriff74 on Nov 30, 2018 9:18:41 GMT -5
I haven’t seen a definitive explanation how you even get a fast swing or what causes it, is it the change over at the top that’s either fast or slow or is it the actual speed of the downswing being too fast or slow or is it all relative to the speed of the backswing. Speed of moving the thumbstick forward. I’m not buying that I’ve spent a lot of time trying to work it out and if it was that simple I would have worked it out, you can shoot -12 with mostly perfect then the next round level with the ball all over the place there is a bug that’s changing the perameters there’s no other explanation, the amount of discrepancy is to great
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Post by timmade on Nov 30, 2018 9:41:39 GMT -5
I will not play this game anymore until the patch. Hitting consistant Pro Clubs with the mouse is impossible. The tempo changes multiple times per round. I know people will say that it is my own fault, but a am convinced there is something drastically wrong with this game. I hope they can fix it or I will say goodbey to TGC tours. A pity, because it was a nice initiative.
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Post by ErixonStone on Nov 30, 2018 9:46:43 GMT -5
I’m not buying that I’ve spent a lot of time trying to work it out and if it was that simple I would have worked it out, you can shoot -12 with mostly perfect then the next round level with the ball all over the place there is a bug that’s changing the perameters there’s no other explanation, the amount of discrepancy is to great There is definitely some inconsistency on XBox, but that is attributable to something happening outside of the game interpreting the input. It could be a number of things: - output delay - input delay - inconsistent frame rates - bad controller - bad controller driver - something else I'm not thinking of Maybe there's code in the game: If console.XBoxOne { // Screw XBoxOne UsersSwingInput.Downswing.Speed = SwingInput.Downswing.Speed + Math.Random(1.0) - 0.5; }
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 11:28:42 GMT -5
HB Studios designed a brilliant game we all love, but each iteration continues to be full of flaws, bugs, and broken/missing features. After playing all versions of this game since day one, and seeing the same issues unresolved and new ones popping up, it just seems to me that there are inherent issues in the main programming that HB Studios has neither the financial or physical ability to fix them. Most of the issues to date have been minor, but the tempo issues are affecting playability and equality from one platform to another are major. I'm hopeful the next patch will resolve the biggest issues, but at the end of the day, in my opinion, unless there is a huge financial infusion into HB Studios, I think we can expect to see the same great flawed games released year after year.
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Post by ErixonStone on Nov 30, 2018 11:47:38 GMT -5
The issues affecting competitive balance among club sets are new in this iteration. Issues across platforms are likely inherent and would require specific steps to be taken to resolve.
I disagree that HB are likely to blame for the inconsistency, but I also think it is fair to criticize HB for not addressing them. It's fair to say that HB knows the information and, to support this community, needs to address it.
However, most players not associated with TGCTours probably have no idea that there is an imbalance across platforms as they only interact with players on their own platform.
I think it's certainly fair to place blame squarely on HB for the imbalance among club sets. They made decisions about how they should be balanced and are to be held accountable for those decisions. They've led us to this weird state in between min/max and true difficulty levels.
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Post by TreeWood on Nov 30, 2018 12:12:51 GMT -5
HB Studios designed a brilliant game we all love, but each iteration continues to be full of flaws, bugs, and broken/missing features. After playing all versions of this game since day one, and seeing the same issues unresolved and new ones popping up, it just seems to me that there are inherent issues in the main programming that HB Studios has neither the financial or physical ability to fix them. Most of the issues to date have been minor, but the tempo issues are affecting playability and equality from one platform to another are major. I'm hopeful the next patch will resolve the biggest issues, but at the end of the day, in my opinion, unless there is a huge financial infusion into HB Studios, I think we can expect to see the same great flawed games released year after year. Agree 100% with you. At its best, it’s a fantastic game that brings golf enthusiasts closer than ever before to actually setting foot on some of the world’s best irl (and imagined) golf courses. However, Over its run to date, the TGC franchise has been falling further and further behind in its ability to meet its potential. I picked up TGC 1 in Feb of 2016, probably sometime after initial teething issues and LOVED IT. I was so thrilled with TGC 1 that I pre-ordered TGC 2, and picked it up in store less than 5 mins after opening on release day. Rushed home, only to find that we were embarking on the three-week saga of getting the HB servers tuned properly. Game was unplayable for that period. Slowly TGC2 stabilized and though I enjoyed it, there was always the bitter memory of the completely disfunctional start. For a host of reasons, but chiefly because of the lack of info/engagement from HBS, which contributed to probably one of the worst product rollouts ever, I held off purchasing TGC2019. I had, in recent weeks, thought about maybe jumping back in once the inevitable price reductions hit — probably in January. This latest round of snafus has convinced me that I made the right decision — I’ll just sit this one out. I’d rather be watching from the ropes than going through all the frustration for such a prolonged time. Hoping the next iteration goes better for everyone. I think the TGC community deserves a more polished product before release.
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Post by lessangster on Nov 30, 2018 12:17:11 GMT -5
I haven’t seen a definitive explanation how you even get a fast swing or what causes it, is it the change over at the top that’s either fast or slow or is it the actual speed of the downswing being too fast or slow or is it all relative to the speed of the backswing. Speed of moving the thumbstick forward. I’ve actually swung through as fast as I could deliberately trying to get a very fast and ended up perfect and dead straight that’s why I asked is it relative to the backswing speed.
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Post by zzfr33b1rdzz on Nov 30, 2018 12:35:39 GMT -5
Speed of moving the thumbstick forward. I’ve actually swung through as fast as I could deliberately trying to get a very fast and ended up perfect and dead straight that’s why I asked is it relative to the backswing speed. You may have something there.. I've deliberately pulled the stick back really slow trying to see if I'd get a slow, and then forward slow, and ended up with P/P... so it would seem that the 'tempo' isn't necessarily the same everytime, but that if you match the pull back speed with the push forward speed it would register as 'perfect'... so if you are consistently pulling and pushing fast, as long as they 'match', you're good, as well as slow slow or medium medium, etc.. Hmmmmmmm
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Post by ddixjr509 on Nov 30, 2018 12:46:32 GMT -5
BrownieF104 Looks like a new Q-School for everyone after the patch to re-sort everyone once again??? :-) I agree with the above, played my 1st round of the promotion event on XBOX, could not get any sort of tempo and the ball went all over the place. I ended up quitting. Funny enough the next day my tempo was ok again, just too late to save my qualifying rounds. I did the same exact thing but with pro clubs on PS4. Quit I've tried playing Promotion event the last 3 nights and the game/tempo/swing was all over the place... Quit. woke up early this morning and the game/tempo/swing was perfect. Unfortunately didn't have time to squeeze rounds in before work- so I'm sure when I get home this afternoon, that all you other knuckleheads will be playing, and the game will be back to being craptastic. I'm losing faith that I'll find a 2 hour window where the swing works before the Saturday night deadline.
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Post by liamgriff74 on Nov 30, 2018 12:58:22 GMT -5
I want to love this game I really do, but at the moment I despise it, because once you get in the groove and you’re swinging well the crap swing mechanics kick in and you destroy your round without warning
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Post by pc17 on Nov 30, 2018 13:11:00 GMT -5
I personally think HB should scrap the Tempo swing. To expect everyone to swing a club the same way on three different platforms, all using different control methods is just ridiculous. It's pretty obvious there will be a disadvantage for some players somewhere. Why can't we just rely on the swing plain to determine the direction the ball travels, and just make this more sensitive depending on which club set you are using.
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