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Post by NobleMan on Nov 11, 2018 8:27:24 GMT -5
I will be putting up a new post for each week. We surely don't want one huge thread for the entire season .
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Post by NobleMan on Nov 11, 2018 11:18:29 GMT -5
Ok. After practicing the first round, I get anywhere between -5 to -8. I suck and belong in CCF . I can't believe I did not get a strike for last weeks stellar performance of -10. Like real golf, this is a humbling game. Cannot control my very fast and very slows.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Nov 11, 2018 11:26:57 GMT -5
Ok. After practicing the first round, I get anywhere between -5 to -8. I suck and belong in CCF . I can't believe I did not get a strike for last weeks stellar performance of -10. Like real golf, this is a humbling game. Cannot control my very fast and very slows. You can't control the very fasts and very slows because IT'S NOT YOU It's all server side brother.
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Post by gamesdecent on Nov 11, 2018 18:14:08 GMT -5
This would've been the perfect course to reward master club users. I was shooting lower on master than pro or beginner in my practice rounds due to the steady dose of 460-480 yard par 4's, only to load up the society and find out we're not even playing from the tips lol. Dropping clubset until I get to CC-A or there is an actual benefit to using master.
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hemberg
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Post by hemberg on Nov 12, 2018 7:12:38 GMT -5
Finished my rounds for week 2 this morning. Started slow (-8,-7) but finished strong (-14,-14). I hope that it will be enough for a promotion mark in CC-B.
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Post by grinder12000 on Nov 12, 2018 8:42:24 GMT -5
Sadly all my practice rounds (1j was from the tips. Some interesting puzzles . . . . . From the tips. Be interested to see what the whites are.
Is there anyway to see what tees are being used EARLY?
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Post by NobleMan on Nov 12, 2018 8:59:15 GMT -5
You can check the weather page and it will show the tees. Weather Page
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Post by COLLOSSUS on Nov 12, 2018 9:05:50 GMT -5
Ok. After practicing the first round, I get anywhere between -5 to -8. I suck and belong in CCF . I can't believe I did not get a strike for last weeks stellar performance of -10. Like real golf, this is a humbling game. Cannot control my very fast and very slows. You can't control the very fasts and very slows because IT'S NOT YOU It's all server side brother. This is absolutely not true, and by saying so you are just spreading misinformation.
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Post by ddixjr509 on Nov 12, 2018 9:33:00 GMT -5
You can't control the very fasts and very slows because IT'S NOT YOU It's all server side brother. This is absolutely not true, and by saying so you are just spreading misinformation. My experience and limited data collection suggests he's correct... I've been keeping track the last 2 weeks- Casuals society tournament- 12 rounds- average 1 fast/fast swing per round PGA Career- 4 rounds- ZERO fast/fast swings Q- School/ CC-A tournament- 8 rounds- averaged 14 fast swings, and 2 very fast swings per round. Until someone (HB) provides a reasonable explanation (other than I choke in TGC Tours?) then it has to be server side performance. (Casuals plays with crowds on- I thought crowds might be the culprit). The only other thing that makes sense is trying to play at low peak times (early Sat morning, late weeknights) when there isn't 3000 people trying to cram TGC Tour rounds in.
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Post by pmac64 on Nov 12, 2018 9:44:03 GMT -5
This would've been the perfect course to reward master club users. I was shooting lower on master than pro or beginner in my practice rounds due to the steady dose of 460-480 yard par 4's, only to load up the society and find out we're not even playing from the tips lol. Dropping clubset until I get to CC-A or there is an actual benefit to using master. Every tournament should be from the tips or there is no point persisting with Master Clubs!! I am in CCD and I think there was one master club player in the top ten.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Nov 12, 2018 10:04:12 GMT -5
This is absolutely not true, and by saying so you are just spreading misinformation. My experience and limited data collection suggests he's correct... I've been keeping track the last 2 weeks- Casuals society tournament- 12 rounds- average 1 fast/fast swing per round PGA Career- 4 rounds- ZERO fast/fast swings Q- School/ CC-A tournament- 8 rounds- averaged 14 fast swings, and 2 very fast swings per round. Until someone (HB) provides a reasonable explanation (other than I choke in TGC Tours?) then it has to be server side performance. (Casuals plays with crowds on- I thought crowds might be the culprit). The only other thing that makes sense is trying to play at low peak times (early Sat morning, late weeknights) when there isn't 3000 people trying to cram TGC Tour rounds in. It's 100% server side..and until I am convinced otherwise I will continue to say it
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Post by ErixonStone on Nov 12, 2018 10:08:51 GMT -5
My experience and limited data collection suggests he's correct... I've been keeping track the last 2 weeks- Casuals society tournament- 12 rounds- average 1 fast/fast swing per round PGA Career- 4 rounds- ZERO fast/fast swings Q- School/ CC-A tournament- 8 rounds- averaged 14 fast swings, and 2 very fast swings per round. Until someone (HB) provides a reasonable explanation (other than I choke in TGC Tours?) then it has to be server side performance.(Casuals plays with crowds on- I thought crowds might be the culprit). The only other thing that makes sense is trying to play at low peak times (early Sat morning, late weeknights) when there isn't 3000 people trying to cram TGC Tour rounds in. No. You are making a claim that tempo issues can be blamed on "server side performance." You have the burden of proof. You must: - define "server side performance" - provide a method of testing for "server side issues" - implement a testing method that eliminates all other possibilities (e.g. computer controlled input, tested for accuracy, to ensure inputs are a. the optimum inputs, and b. the same every time, and to eliminate all other external factors) - document all results - describe how anyone else can repeat your test for themselves. Otherwise, you are making unsubstantiated claims based on fallacy (I can't think of any other explanation, so it must be..."server side issues"). That doesn't get us anywhere closer to the truth. Ultimately, you may turn out to be right - and I don't necessarily think you're wrong, but you have a lot of steps to take to get there. The onus is on you.
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Post by ddixjr509 on Nov 12, 2018 10:47:24 GMT -5
My experience and limited data collection suggests he's correct... I've been keeping track the last 2 weeks- Casuals society tournament- 12 rounds- average 1 fast/fast swing per round PGA Career- 4 rounds- ZERO fast/fast swings Q- School/ CC-A tournament- 8 rounds- averaged 14 fast swings, and 2 very fast swings per round. Until someone (HB) provides a reasonable explanation (other than I choke in TGC Tours?) then it has to be server side performance.(Casuals plays with crowds on- I thought crowds might be the culprit). The only other thing that makes sense is trying to play at low peak times (early Sat morning, late weeknights) when there isn't 3000 people trying to cram TGC Tour rounds in. No. You are making a claim that tempo issues can be blamed on "server side performance." You have the burden of proof. You must: - define "server side performance" - provide a method of testing for "server side issues" - implement a testing method that eliminates all other possibilities (e.g. computer controlled input, tested for accuracy, to ensure inputs are a. the optimum inputs, and b. the same every time, and to eliminate all other external factors) - document all results - describe how anyone else can repeat your test for themselves. Otherwise, you are making unsubstantiated claims based on fallacy (I can't think of any other explanation, so it must be..."server side issues"). That doesn't get us anywhere closer to the truth. Ultimately, you may turn out to be right - and I don't necessarily think you're wrong, but you have a lot of steps to take to get there. The onus is on you. The general frustration here is that HB doesn't even acknowledge this is a problem... I'm not the one with the crucial data to perform the required testing. I'm merely suggesting that based of my experience, my home improvements (new routers, router locations, boosters, TV settings) and process of elimination that server side performance is a leading candidate. I have an Invicta course to tend to- so my playing time will be decreasing, which in turn will decrease my frustration with game performance... and my time to conduct such tests are virtually zero... though I nominate Phyler to champion that effort.
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Post by grantcrichter on Nov 12, 2018 11:15:42 GMT -5
This would've been the perfect course to reward master club users. I was shooting lower on master than pro or beginner in my practice rounds due to the steady dose of 460-480 yard par 4's, only to load up the society and find out we're not even playing from the tips lol. Dropping clubset until I get to CC-A or there is an actual benefit to using master. Every tournament should be from the tips or there is no point persisting with Master Clubs!! I am in CCD and I think there was one master club player in the top ten. isnt the added distance and shorter rollout on approach shots the advantage to masters clubs?
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Post by gamesdecent on Nov 12, 2018 12:00:42 GMT -5
I was pretty skeptical of the server side vs human error debate, but I will say last week on Holyoke I think I only had 2 very slow downswings in 4 rounds (on normal shots, not partials/pitches/etc) and they were on the 2nd shot of the same hole and put me in the same bunker short right of the green. Most of my issues are straightness, not tempo, so VF or VS always stick out to me and these two came on the exact shot with the exact result. It's the first time I've seen the "server-side" side of the argument first hand that I can remember. Still doesn't rule out coincidence for me though, because I'm very average at this game.
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