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Post by gamesdecent on Nov 4, 2018 20:00:26 GMT -5
Well, this'll be the first time I've managed to have a course on the same tour I was playing on, so it'll be a little different this week. I'm happy that they cranked the winds up, since I think the course gets more interesting with the wind, and the wind/greens are the only real defense the course has. Plus there's no water or OB, so those blowup holes aren't going to be as bad. I four putted the first hole of the first round so my -5 overall was uphill from the jump.
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Post by Giraffe72 on Nov 4, 2018 21:38:58 GMT -5
Just played my first round, back in CC-C for the first time in forever. Kind of liking the place already! Except that Digs fella, says come to the bar but the @!$#er is sitting on the only bar stool and has already drank all the good whiskey. I've realised very quickly that this is the place for me for now. These wide fairways are very suited to my random swinging! That said, didn't swing too badly, a few got away from me but not unhappy to kick the season off with a 66. Eagle birdie bogey finish sort of sums up my play, but I had fun out there. It's good to be back Good luck all.
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Post by mattf27 on Nov 4, 2018 23:13:06 GMT -5
Eagle at #1, ace at #5 on my way to a -12 first round. Told you there's scores out there.
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Post by digsb on Nov 5, 2018 3:32:40 GMT -5
Eagle at #1, ace at #5 on my way to a -12 first round. Told you there's scores out there. GET TO THE BAR, ALL DRINKS ON mattf27
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Post by Giraffe72 on Nov 5, 2018 6:16:32 GMT -5
Early days, but some curious statistics on who's using Masters clubs in the CC Pro Tours:
CC-A 12/47 26% CC-B 41/62 66% CC-C 31/55 56% CC-D 23/52 44%
This dynamic will probably change, but very interesting that CC-A has the lowest ratio by some distance. Good news for the Masters Club users wanting to make Web?
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Post by martbloke on Nov 5, 2018 6:44:44 GMT -5
Early days, but some curious statistics on who's using Masters clubs in the CC Pro Tours: CC-A 12/47 26% CC-B 41/62 66% CC-C 31/55 56% CC-D 23/52 44% This dynamic will probably change, but very interesting that CC-A has the lowest ratio by some distance. Good news for the Masters Club users wanting to make Web? Possible but I think a lot of peeps were playing with non-Masters to make sure they were in CC-A and no lower. They will switch to Masters now methinks. Issue was that if you used Masters in QS and missed the cut by 3+ shots, you also missed CC-A. -32 (1 off Web.com cut) was 161st in CC-A - brutal.
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Post by Giraffe72 on Nov 5, 2018 6:51:14 GMT -5
Early days, but some curious statistics on who's using Masters clubs in the CC Pro Tours: CC-A 12/47 26% CC-B 41/62 66% CC-C 31/55 56% CC-D 23/52 44% This dynamic will probably change, but very interesting that CC-A has the lowest ratio by some distance. Good news for the Masters Club users wanting to make Web? Possible but I think a lot of peeps were playing with non-Masters to make sure they were in CC-A and no lower. They will switch to Masters now methinks. Issue was that if you used Masters in QS and missed the cut by 3+ shots, you also missed CC-A. -32 (1 off Web.com cut) was 161st in CC-A - brutal. Well the statistics don't currently attest to that with only a quarter of the early field using Masters, but yes, it could well change over the course of the next few days and weeks. I haven't got a problem with it, just pointing it out. I think we need to run with this system for a good few months and let things settle down before deciding how well it's working. One day in to a new season is not a good sample size!
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Post by martbloke on Nov 5, 2018 7:31:22 GMT -5
Possible but I think a lot of peeps were playing with non-Masters to make sure they were in CC-A and no lower. They will switch to Masters now methinks. Issue was that if you used Masters in QS and missed the cut by 3+ shots, you also missed CC-A. -32 (1 off Web.com cut) was 161st in CC-A - brutal. Well the statistics don't currently attest to that with only a quarter of the early field using Masters, but yes, it could well change over the course of the next few days and weeks. I haven't got a problem with it, just pointing it out. I think we need to run with this system for a good few months and let things settle down before deciding how well it's working. One day in to a new season is not a good sample size! Oh yeah for sure I completely agree. I'm intrigued to see how this will all unfold over these next few weeks
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Post by rhino4life on Nov 5, 2018 8:34:11 GMT -5
Early days, but some curious statistics on who's using Masters clubs in the CC Pro Tours: CC-A 12/47 26% CC-B 41/62 66% CC-C 31/55 56% CC-D 23/52 44% This dynamic will probably change, but very interesting that CC-A has the lowest ratio by some distance. Good news for the Masters Club users wanting to make Web? Likely pro clubs for 4 ticks.. switch to Masters for the exemption chance?
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Post by Giraffe72 on Nov 5, 2018 8:35:29 GMT -5
Early days, but some curious statistics on who's using Masters clubs in the CC Pro Tours: CC-A 12/47 26% CC-B 41/62 66% CC-C 31/55 56% CC-D 23/52 44% This dynamic will probably change, but very interesting that CC-A has the lowest ratio by some distance. Good news for the Masters Club users wanting to make Web? Likely pro clubs for 4 ticks.. switch to Masters for the exemption chance? You don't get any ticks unless you're using Masters Clubs, unless I've read that wrong.
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Post by ErixonStone on Nov 5, 2018 9:27:50 GMT -5
You don't get any ticks unless you're using Masters Clubs, unless I've read that wrong. This is correct. You can clear demotion marks using Pro or Beginner Clubs, but you cannot earn promotion marks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2018 9:34:33 GMT -5
Possible but I think a lot of peeps were playing with non-Masters to make sure they were in CC-A and no lower. They will switch to Masters now methinks. Issue was that if you used Masters in QS and missed the cut by 3+ shots, you also missed CC-A. -32 (1 off Web.com cut) was 161st in CC-A - brutal. Well the statistics don't currently attest to that with only a quarter of the early field using Masters, but yes, it could well change over the course of the next few days and weeks. I haven't got a problem with it, just pointing it out. I think we need to run with this system for a good few months and let things settle down before deciding how well it's working. One day in to a new season is not a good sample size! I am planning on getting more detailed at tracking this and the other two club types as it's not too difficult to do. I had an 'all CC tours' summary. I will add CC-Pro and CC-Am to it as well.
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Post by mattf27 on Nov 5, 2018 10:14:47 GMT -5
Possible but I think a lot of peeps were playing with non-Masters to make sure they were in CC-A and no lower. They will switch to Masters now methinks. Issue was that if you used Masters in QS and missed the cut by 3+ shots, you also missed CC-A. -32 (1 off Web.com cut) was 161st in CC-A - brutal. Well the statistics don't currently attest to that with only a quarter of the early field using Masters, but yes, it could well change over the course of the next few days and weeks. I haven't got a problem with it, just pointing it out. I think we need to run with this system for a good few months and let things settle down before deciding how well it's working. One day in to a new season is not a good sample size! The numbers are going to be off because anyone using beginner or pro clubs who scored well in q-school are all grouped in CC-A. I can't be the only one who wasn't expecting to do anything serious and then shoot web.com or better scores after bumping down in clubset. I figure the numbers will drift to masters clubs eventually.
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Post by Violinguy69 on Nov 5, 2018 16:00:26 GMT -5
Well, this'll be the first time I've managed to have a course on the same tour I was playing on, so it'll be a little different this week. I'm happy that they cranked the winds up, since I think the course gets more interesting with the wind, and the wind/greens are the only real defense the course has. Plus there's no water or OB, so those blowup holes aren't going to be as bad. It's a beautifully done course Matt. The framing of the holes is first rate as is the bunkering. You're right about the wind. With no wind, this course will give up some low scores, but all it takes is one bad swing and you're putting from a mile away up 2 feet. I did see on the weather that the green speeds will be jacked up at least once so that will add some fun. I rangered it and played one practice round. I'll probably get to playing for real tomorrow.
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Post by ddixjr509 on Nov 5, 2018 16:35:21 GMT -5
Early days, but some curious statistics on who's using Masters clubs in the CC Pro Tours: CC-A 12/47 26% CC-B 41/62 66% CC-C 31/55 56% CC-D 23/52 44% This dynamic will probably change, but very interesting that CC-A has the lowest ratio by some distance. Good news for the Masters Club users wanting to make Web? Possible but I think a lot of peeps were playing with non-Masters to make sure they were in CC-A and no lower. They will switch to Masters now methinks. Issue was that if you used Masters in QS and missed the cut by 3+ shots, you also missed CC-A. -32 (1 off Web.com cut) was 161st in CC-A - brutal. Brutal for sure! I had a huge decision on Rd 8 after playing first 7 Rds with Masters- the range of possibilities were all over the place for me. Shooting -15 gets me to Euro, a -6 gets me to Web, -4 or -5 to CC A, and -3 or lower to CC-B. I stuck with Masters and let the chips fall. Very early on, it looks like 16 Masters club users in CC-A- half of which played Q school with pro or beginners. Vegas Dave puts the over/under on Masters users at 60 for CC-A. MattF didn't get the memo that winning on your own course is poor form
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