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Post by XJ_Jagman on Oct 21, 2018 18:02:20 GMT -5
So what happens once people fall out of the Pro Leaderboard top 450? I know we move to the CCs after falling out, but are the Master level players moved to the top of the list before the other levels? For example if +6 is the first group to fall off the pro board, right now, that group would move to CC-F if it just goes by the score. Is any consideration given for playing with Master level clubs in the CC circuit?
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Post by XJ_Jagman on Oct 21, 2018 18:07:40 GMT -5
Forget it, I've got my answer as it has happened. Wow. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. Maybe I should have used Pro clubs and anticipated the CC tour. Poop poop poop.
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Post by grinder12000 on Oct 21, 2018 21:45:02 GMT -5
LOL yea. It’s a slow death. 😁 tonight. It’s like a flood and the water keeps rising
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Post by Tim on Oct 21, 2018 21:50:37 GMT -5
The one thing you can do (if you want), is if you're already on the CC leaderboard, then you can switch from master to pro clubs in next week's tourney without penalty to try to better your score. Nothing is forcing you to stay on the master clubs all 8 rounds. If you do switch down to a non-master club set though, you are capped to the CC tours.
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neilwilkes
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Post by neilwilkes on Oct 23, 2018 5:18:46 GMT -5
The one thing you can do (if you want), is if you're already on the CC leaderboard, then you can switch from master to pro clubs in next week's tourney without penalty to try to better your score. Nothing is forcing you to stay on the master clubs all 8 rounds. If you do switch down to a non-master club set though, you are capped to the CC tours. Where's the fun in that then? Much more fun to end up where you end up & promote your way up the jolly old ladder.
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Post by PKR33 on Oct 23, 2018 12:26:32 GMT -5
I am new to the tour and golf and will be in the CC class. Realistically since i am playing with Master clubs how easy or hard is it to progress my way up. I really want to make it to Web but if i am sitting in CC-F how long of a grind will it take to get to Web. Or is the better play to switch to Beg or Pro clubs for the second week of Q school
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neilwilkes
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Post by neilwilkes on Oct 24, 2018 3:11:26 GMT -5
I am new to the tour and golf and will be in the CC class. Realistically since i am playing with Master clubs how easy or hard is it to progress my way up. I really want to make it to Web but if i am sitting in CC-F how long of a grind will it take to get to Web. Or is the better play to switch to Beg or Pro clubs for the second week of Q school The better way is to stick with the bats you will be using all the time to my way of thinking. The rules have all changed for next season, so instead of sponsor exemptions you need to score promotion points instead (IIRC it takes 5 of these to go up a level but this may be inaccurate as I cannot find the relevant thread).
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Post by martbloke on Oct 24, 2018 7:20:49 GMT -5
I am new to the tour and golf and will be in the CC class. Realistically since i am playing with Master clubs how easy or hard is it to progress my way up. I really want to make it to Web but if i am sitting in CC-F how long of a grind will it take to get to Web. Or is the better play to switch to Beg or Pro clubs for the second week of Q school The better way is to stick with the bats you will be using all the time to my way of thinking. The rules have all changed for next season, so instead of sponsor exemptions you need to score promotion points instead (IIRC it takes 5 of these to go up a level but this may be inaccurate as I cannot find the relevant thread). So like Neil, I am always of the way that you should just play the way you enjoy most. If that's Masters, then stick with them. However if you are competitive and want to be gunning for the Pro divisions but using Masters at the moment you are not good enough to get into the Pro divisions through Q School, the best play is this: If using Masters could leave you down in the lower divisions whereas you are a lot better using Pros, use Pros to get as high in the CC divisions as possible so that you don't have to promote through as many divisions to get to CC-A. If with Masters you believe you can make CC-A, stay with them. Once in CC-A, you have to use Masters. Simples. Alternatively you can see where you are after the 1st week uding Masters and if looking bad, switch to Pros for the 2nd week. You won't get to the Pros doing this as you have to use Masters for all 8 rounds but you can then claw some strokes back using Pros to get in a higher division - potentially.
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Post by ErixonStone on Oct 24, 2018 11:37:48 GMT -5
If you're struggling with Masters, switch to Pro and do what you can to get into CC-A. While in CC-A, if you have no demotion marks, use Masters to try for Promotion Marks. If you're struggling, switch to Pro to try to clear demotion marks.
Eventually, you'll get to a point where you can score better most of the time with Master Clubs. Then make the switch permanently.
That time frame will vary for everyone. It took me six months to get to that point in TGC2. I seem to have picked up this swing almost right away (although I have a ways to go in pre-shot adjustments).
Good luck and enjoy the ride.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 11:55:05 GMT -5
There are the quarterly promotion events too. Wonder if it will just be CC-A master club players that can get promoted to the Web or if they'll have an event for any master club player from CC-A to CC-C trying to make the pro tour?
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Post by captainturtl3 on Oct 26, 2018 17:59:57 GMT -5
Personally I was hoping to make the pro tours so I used masters clubs for the first 4 rounds. I ended up at +14 i think. I don't think i have a chance at working my way out of that hole. Currently i'm on CCE so I've got a few tours to climb before I have to use masters clubs. I'm gonna switch to pro clubs to try and climb that ladder as fast as I can.
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Post by grinder12000 on Oct 27, 2018 9:33:58 GMT -5
I'm just above you at +12 and was thinking along the same lines - HOWEVER- the courses in CC are MUCH easier then Bedes and I suspect you will only gain 1 or 2 strokes with Pro clubs and could do actually better with Master clubs on the easier courses.
I'm sticking with Master until I prove I can not go higher with them - THEN I will drop to Pro clubs if needed but that is 2 or 3 months away yet.
If you are +12 or +14 I suspect you will be below par on the CC courses.
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Post by ErixonStone on Oct 28, 2018 6:25:39 GMT -5
Scheduling note: In many cases, Master Clubs allow players to reach areas of the course that Pro Clubs cannot reach, resulting in an even bigger distance advantage. When evaluating courses for CC-Pro, we are looking for the tee set that accomplishes this as often as possible throughout the round.
We are looking to push CC-Pro players towards Master Clubs so that players earning promotions are best prepared for the Pro Tours.
For CC-Am, we do something similar, but are looking to push Pro Clubs over Beginner Clubs.
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Post by corkus67 on Oct 29, 2018 9:46:46 GMT -5
I think it would have been a more true assessment of talent to compare apples to apples and have everyone use the master clubs. Those who chose master clubs and didn't fair well on that really tough course are somewhat penalized in the CC placements. In fact I really don't see the point in allowing the other club sets in season play at any level, other than to give those not as good at the game a change to compete, at least up to CC-A.
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Post by Celtic Wolf on Nov 3, 2018 18:26:45 GMT -5
I think it would have been a more true assessment of talent to compare apples to apples and have everyone use the master clubs. Those who chose master clubs and didn't fair well on that really tough course are somewhat penalized in the CC placements. In fact I really don't see the point in allowing the other club sets in season play at any level, other than to give those not as good at the game a change to compete, at least up to CC-A. I play with pro clubs and I'm currently sitting in a position to be in CC-C. I play the game for fun and I wouldn't get the same enjoyment from playing with master clubs at the moment. If I manage to climb up to CC-A then I'll make the switch, but if I was forced to play with master clubs anywhere below the pro tours I'd probably lose interest in playing.
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