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Post by Tenahka on Aug 19, 2018 19:39:52 GMT -5
Or you could be me - spend all afternoon sorting out my 7th hole - long uphill par 4, split fairway at different levels with a long snaking bunker in between (so loads of sculpting), nice green with bunkering where the hardest looking pins have all the slopes actually helping and the easy pins are sneaky, sort out all the bunkering........and the bloody game crashes and I lose the f-ing lot. There were a few choice words uttered at HB / TGC and the world in general...... The solution - play a society event at Widows Cliffs instead......I am very clearly a glutton for punishment..... I save like every 5 mins, then i only lose 5 mins of work, if you only save every 2 hours...... lol
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Post by wood92 on Aug 20, 2018 2:19:50 GMT -5
Or you could be me - spend all afternoon sorting out my 7th hole - long uphill par 4, split fairway at different levels with a long snaking bunker in between (so loads of sculpting), nice green with bunkering where the hardest looking pins have all the slopes actually helping and the easy pins are sneaky, sort out all the bunkering........and the bloody game crashes and I lose the f-ing lot. There were a few choice words uttered at HB / TGC and the world in general...... The solution - play a society event at Widows Cliffs instead......I am very clearly a glutton for punishment..... I save like every 5 mins, then i only lose 5 mins of work, if you only save every 2 hours...... lol Was an absolute pain designing on PS4 with the crashing all the time. Saving every few minutes. Also planting takes so long. Watched crazycanuck and how easy it was on pc. Unfortunately I can't even start my course until 2019 comes out. I do have most of holes sketched out ready to put down when game comes.
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Post by rob4590 on Aug 20, 2018 2:23:25 GMT -5
Or you could be me - spend all afternoon sorting out my 7th hole - long uphill par 4, split fairway at different levels with a long snaking bunker in between (so loads of sculpting), nice green with bunkering where the hardest looking pins have all the slopes actually helping and the easy pins are sneaky, sort out all the bunkering........and the bloody game crashes and I lose the f-ing lot. There were a few choice words uttered at HB / TGC and the world in general...... The solution - play a society event at Widows Cliffs instead......I am very clearly a glutton for punishment..... I save like every 5 mins, then i only lose 5 mins of work, if you only save every 2 hours...... lol
If you can't say something nice, then........ (shakes head)
In over a year of TGC2 (around 1800 hours of play) I've had precisely THREE crashes to desktop......of which two were yesterday (this one being the first of those two).
So yeah.....thanks for nothing
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Post by Tenahka on Aug 20, 2018 4:17:27 GMT -5
I save like every 5 mins, then i only lose 5 mins of work, if you only save every 2 hours...... lol
If you can't say something nice, then........ (shakes head)
In over a year of TGC2 (around 1800 hours of play) I've had precisely THREE crashes to desktop......of which two were yesterday (this one being the first of those two).
So yeah.....thanks for nothing
Sorry Rob, That wasn't meant to be mean or disrespectful. I learned the hard way about saving regularly. I'm on ps4 and the designer crashes quite often. I didn't realise it was so rare on PC, I thought that all versions of the game would be the same. I'm really sorry if you took offense to that, none was intended at all.
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Post by CiB0RG on Aug 20, 2018 7:50:39 GMT -5
I've only had the game crash on me once. And it was only a few weeks after TGC2 came out. I was messing around in the designer looking to publish my first course... I ended up building and saving my first 2 holes which I really liked, then I got back on later and finished 3 more holes which took a few hours and the game crashed while I was playtesting before I could save. When I rebooted the game I deleted the course and did not touch the designer again for a few months.
Unfortunately it happens... luckily there is plenty of time for this contest. You usually end up doing it faster and better quality the second time around!
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Post by rob4590 on Aug 20, 2018 7:56:43 GMT -5
If you can't say something nice, then........ (shakes head)
In over a year of TGC2 (around 1800 hours of play) I've had precisely THREE crashes to desktop......of which two were yesterday (this one being the first of those two).
So yeah.....thanks for nothing
Sorry Rob, That wasn't meant to be mean or disrespectful. I learned the hard way about saving regularly. I'm on ps4 and the designer crashes quite often. I didn't realise it was so rare on PC, I thought that all versions of the game would be the same. I'm really sorry if you took offense to that, none was intended at all. No worries Chris - probably just me still being pissed that it happened, and took your post in its worst possible context. I normally save regularly - but guess I just got on a roll of making the little tweaks to improve things and forgot to do it.
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Post by chilihotkey on Aug 20, 2018 11:39:10 GMT -5
luckily dont think i ever had a crash(PC), guess i should be glad since i also dont think i have ever saved more than when done for the night, for some reason this is a lesson i never learn in any game/program until it happens the first time, after that i can get in a habit for that game. My designer do have plenty of bugs tho that make my designs look much worse than anyone else (yep, thats the reason and im sticking with it!)
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Post by slick60 on Aug 20, 2018 14:52:06 GMT -5
This sounds very interesting and in the least I will be learning as I try to design. I do not know if the end of October will give me enough time to complete a course as it will drag me away from everything else that needs doing. I am rather slow I feel. With changes in 2019 does that mean the courses need to be designed in the new TGC or using TGC2 the course will be moved over to 2019 for publishing? Thanks for the information.
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Post by ErixonStone on Aug 20, 2018 15:17:35 GMT -5
This sounds very interesting and in the least I will be learning as I try to design. I do not know if the end of October will give me enough time to complete a course as it will drag me away from everything else that needs doing. I am rather slow I feel. With changes in 2019 does that mean the courses need to be designed in the new TGC or using TGC2 the course will be moved over to 2019 for publishing? Thanks for the information. slick60 HB insists that porting courses from TGC2 to TGC2019 should work without too many issues. One thing you will need to check is the trees, as the models are changing as TGC2019 utilizes SpeedTree.
The only requirement is that your course needs to be published in TGC2019 by October 31. How you get there is up to you.
HB has said they've implemented some cool changes that are aimed at speeding up the design process - auto-fill splines and auto-generated light rough bordering fairway surfaces - but time will tell how well these things work.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 16:42:19 GMT -5
I have made the decision to hold off properly starting in the designer. Sure it will put more pressure on time but as Patrick suggested a delay to August release delays the Comp anyway. 2 months should be enough time.
I just know if there are better features in 19 I will regret starting in 2 and I bet the bugs don’t make it worth it. We shall see.
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Post by chilihotkey on Aug 20, 2018 17:24:16 GMT -5
I took the other route Roy Was gonna start but not do the parts that i knew were changing, mainly fairways and trees but i found it too be way harder to try and build "around" the fairways, mainly because well, starting with fairways is the only way ive done it before but also it just felt like there was no "visual" progress at all.
But instead of waiting i just bit the bullet and started doing it my "old" way, hopefully it will not be a wasted effort when it comes to porting.
(suspect my fairways will be done before 2019 even comes along as i dont take nearly as long now as the first course, but i will hold off with the planting tho as that seems more or less guaranteed to be screwed up after porting)
and who knows if the auto-fill feature will even work?, that would be even more time pressure if it turns out you still will have to go over every texture border like today. At least now its started so no turning back now...hopefully, and im starting to feel confident that the time should be enough unless too many weekends get disrupted until then.
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Post by mayday_golf83 on Aug 20, 2018 18:26:58 GMT -5
Was an absolute pain designing on PS4 with the crashing all the time. Saving every few minutes. Also planting takes so long. Watched crazycanuck and how easy it was on pc. Unfortunately I can't even start my course until 2019 comes out. I do have most of holes sketched out ready to put down when game comes. I'll chime in here as I design exclusively on PS4. Yes, saving often is your best friend, especially when designing on console. In my experience the crashes are less frequent in 2 than they were in 1, but they're also far less predictable. Got to the point in 1 where if I clicked a button and nothing happened, I knew I was on the brink of a crash, and I could usually get in a quick save and be OK. Never know when one's going to sprout up in 2. Kind of forces you into the habit of being religious about saving. Nothing worse than seeing a blue screen and having that sinking feeling of, "Oh, crap! How much did I just lose?" In regard to planting, yes it does take a while, but spam planting is still possible on the PS4 and is a HUGE timesaver. Never thought it was possible on console until I saw scampi00 do it on one of his tutorials and it was a complete game changer for me in terms of planting. Takes a little practice to get the hang of, but it definitely saves time when planting trees, bushes and grasses ... Now, if it's something that has to be laid down piece-by-piece, like a fence or a retaining wall, yeah, that definitely gets tedious and I try to do that early on in the planting phase as the more you fill up the meter, the slower things go. As to those debating whether to start now or begin fresh with 19, if it were me, I'd start now -- especially if I thought I was going to face a time crunch at the end. I've currently have two WIPs going that I plan to bring into '19. The way I see it is this, I'm going to make an assumption that the basic workings of the designer have remained the same, since we haven't been told anything to the contrary. So, my sculpting, brushwork, splining and bunkering should pretty much be unaltered in the transfer. That said, I'm pretty much refraining from doing any planting until '19 comes out as that's probably going to be the one biggest change, given the switch over to SpeedTree. Plus, the ability to rotate trees in '19 is a bit of an underrated game changer, I feel. In terms of the contest, I think getting a head start in TGC2 has a benefit, especially if you are really focusing in on the playability of your course while you're designing in TGC2. If you have your course playing how you want it by the time '19 comes out, and only have planting left to do, you'll be WAY ahead of the game. I know that's difficult for some, especially those who want to be able see the "whole picture" while designing. I can relate as I was that way when I started and have slowly been weening myself off that as I find a design flow that works best for me. If you can compartmentalize playability and planting into two separate phases, it will really come in handy, I feel, as we get set to change over to '19. Individual results may vary, but that's my $0.02 worth.
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Post by Tenahka on Aug 20, 2018 19:16:15 GMT -5
mayday_golf83 and a good $0.02 it is! Value for money if you ask me lol. I had the same thought I'm getting the skeletons of my course down now (layout, basic sculpting) and wont be doing any planting or object until TGC2019. Everything I've heard is that this will be where the changes are, so not doing it will make it easier to port over i think.
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Post by wood92 on Aug 21, 2018 2:51:55 GMT -5
I'd love to start mine but I'm going from PS4 to pc so have to wait. I've got 13 holes sketched out on my ipad.i found a course layout I like so it's just transferring that to the game.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 3:53:19 GMT -5
I have a different kind of pad. It’s called a notepad and a wooden object with lead running through it. I have worked out that when this object is applied with sufficient force the lead stays on the paper notepad allowing me to transfer my hole ideas onto the paper. It’s BRILLIANT!!! I’m 6 holes in .....
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