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Post by catcherman22 on May 1, 2018 0:09:08 GMT -5
Tournament names for this year are already set.. I'm sure there will be some sort of naming thread when we get closer to the next season.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 1:13:07 GMT -5
Tournament names for this year are already set.. I'm sure there will be some sort of naming thread when we get closer to the next season. Nice.
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Post by lessangster on May 1, 2018 3:43:08 GMT -5
Lake Tahoe (and not even from the tips)Par 3s: 228, 234, 227, 199 - I'm all for a long Par 3, but limit 225+ to 1 at most. Then maybe 1 other can be 200-215, but the others should be no more than 180. Par 4s: 502, 491, 481, 506, 472 - A 502 starting hole? 329, 310, 329 - They look like yardage offset holes instead of risk-reward because of the length of the others Par 5s: 630, 612, 595, 578 - Give the player at least one chance for an eagle putt to soothe the agony. Looks like an attempt to stop the insane scores but we all know it’s not going to work. I’m pleased with my scores so far 66/64/64 with Player Clubs and I had three bogies and a double in the mix.
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Post by Jason White on May 1, 2018 5:03:04 GMT -5
Lake Tahoe (and not even from the tips)Par 3s: 228, 234, 227, 199 - I'm all for a long Par 3, but limit 225+ to 1 at most. Then maybe 1 other can be 200-215, but the others should be no more than 180. Par 4s: 502, 491, 481, 506, 472 - A 502 starting hole? 329, 310, 329 - They look like yardage offset holes instead of risk-reward because of the length of the others Par 5s: 630, 612, 595, 578 - Give the player at least one chance for an eagle putt to soothe the agony. Looks like an attempt to stop the insane scores but we all know it’s not going to work. I’m pleased with my scores so far 66/64/64 with Player Clubs and I had three bogies and a double in the mix. I usually make long courses because I build mine with the intention of it hosting a Major. My greens are always on the soft side though allowing you to still be aggressive and indesign greens to reward good shots and punish bad ones. If you’re on you will always score well on my courses. I do love long holes! I like to bring a sweat to players 😂 but I also have some very short holes in the mix to include a very drivable par 4
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Post by lessangster on May 1, 2018 6:56:31 GMT -5
Looks like an attempt to stop the insane scores but we all know it’s not going to work. I’m pleased with my scores so far 66/64/64 with Player Clubs and I had three bogies and a double in the mix. I usually make long courses because I build mine with the intention of it hosting a Major. My greens are always on the soft side though allowing you to still be aggressive and indesign greens to reward good shots and punish bad ones. If you’re on you will always score well on my courses. I do love long holes! I like to bring a sweat to players 😂 but I also have some very short holes in the mix to include a very drivable par 4 I like the course but you should have an outside chance at eagle on a par 5 that’s my thinking. Depending on where I am on the leaderboard I might have a crack with the Tour Clubs last round. I like the soft greens though gives you a chance of holding them with a long iron or hybrid.
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Post by ErixonStone on May 1, 2018 7:08:23 GMT -5
I like the course but you should have an outside chance at eagle on a par 5 that’s my thinking. We play courses like that just about every other week, so this is a nice change of pace.
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Post by ErixonStone on May 1, 2018 7:11:22 GMT -5
Lake Tahoe (and not even from the tips)Par 3s: 228, 234, 227, 199 - I'm all for a long Par 3, but limit 225+ to 1 at most. Then maybe 1 other can be 200-215, but the others should be no more than 180. Par 4s: 502, 491, 481, 506, 472 - A 502 starting hole? 329, 310, 329 - They look like yardage offset holes instead of risk-reward because of the length of the others Par 5s: 630, 612, 595, 578 - Give the player at least one chance for an eagle putt to soothe the agony. Why does every course need to fit into your personal box? So there are lots of long holes. You (the collective you) can handle it.
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Post by ErixonStone on May 1, 2018 7:18:37 GMT -5
Hmmm.... Carolina Classic....in Lake Tahoe, CA.... I'm lost. Can I get some BBQ with my Chablis before skiing? I agree.....a couple weeks ago we had a desert classic held in the countryside. Considering how much serious work goes into making TGCT feel like a real professional tour, this just comes off as kinda sloppy. At the time we did the scheduling for some of the recent events, there was a dearth of courses suitable for Challenge Circuit play. 20-some-odd designers were finishing up their WIP for griff's contest. We didn't have a suitable desert/steppe course available to have rangered in time. Ideally, we would want the tournament name and the course name to make sense together, but the priority is to make the gameplay as fun and varied as possible. Sometimes we have to compromise.
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Post by iorwerth on May 1, 2018 7:38:16 GMT -5
Looks like an attempt to stop the insane scores but we all know it’s not going to work. I’m pleased with my scores so far 66/64/64 with Player Clubs and I had three bogies and a double in the mix. I usually make long courses because I build mine with the intention of it hosting a Major. My greens are always on the soft side though allowing you to still be aggressive and indesign greens to reward good shots and punish bad ones. If you’re on you will always score well on my courses. I do love long holes! I like to bring a sweat to players 😂 but I also have some very short holes in the mix to include a very drivable par 4 What I have found is that the soft greens are not helping much with long approach shots or par 3 opening shots, as with long irons/hyrbids/woods it seems the green speed has more effect on the roll of the ball than the soft green itself. These par 3's require big clubs to reach and the ball does roll a lot. Having said that, I am not complaining, it is just makes it all more of a challenge - though I am finding most of these par 3's require a chip and putt as I often find my ball rolling off the green from my tee shot
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Post by IGolfBad on May 1, 2018 8:38:09 GMT -5
I’d like to say the majority of us appreciate the efforts of the mods, who bring us the opportunity to play competitive golf every single week without asking anything of us.
Set aside the complaints and show some gratitude. This is simply the finest run global sporting community out there, at absolutely no cost to you.
In other news, this hack (I am the original bad golfer, after all), posted -29 for the event. It was tough but fair, and worth every bit of effort I put into it. Try practicing more than once and you’ll soon find that the course will yield scores.
Cheers! 🍻
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Post by Violinguy69 on May 1, 2018 9:21:42 GMT -5
As I am now a ranger, I understand first hand exactly how much work goes into choosing courses for tournaments. When I'm about to complain about something (here or otherwise), I always try remind myself that there is probably more going on behind the scenes that I don't know about. That would be the case here. To everyone who plays these events, please know that schedulers don't just pull courses out of their @#$!s and throw them up there without any thought going into it. Yes, on the surface some of these courses may cause some head scratching, but there is always methods to TGCTours' madness. On a side note, Jason, I love this course, but the long par 3s are conspicuous. Normally, you get four of them on a course. My advice, FWIW, is to have one really long one (200-240), two that are medium or medium long (175-200), and one short one (where players can hit 8-iron or less). I love the short par 4s, but to me, all of the excellent variation of holes is in your par 4s and nowhere else. I'm really nit-picking because the course is excellent and will make a great tournament course. Funny, one of my favorite courses in FL that I played regularly when I lived there has four par 3s that were all exactly the same distance from each tee. I would normally hit the same club on three of them, and a longer club on the 4th because it was uphill. Oh well.
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Post by TreeWood on May 1, 2018 9:33:24 GMT -5
I agree.....a couple weeks ago we had a desert classic held in the countryside. Considering how much serious work goes into making TGCT feel like a real professional tour, this just comes off as kinda sloppy. At the time we did the scheduling for some of the recent events, there was a dearth of courses suitable for Challenge Circuit play. 20-some-odd designers were finishing up their WIP for griff's contest. We didn't have a suitable desert/steppe course available to have rangered in time. Ideally, we would want the tournament name and the course name to make sense together, but the priority is to make the gameplay as fun and varied as possible. Sometimes we have to compromise. Thanks for the reply, Patrick. Sounds reasonable enough. Didn’t realize that you guys were dealing with a shortage of options. Hopefully, the boom in quality new courses will make things better!
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Post by lions67 on May 1, 2018 10:24:22 GMT -5
Agh !! I stumbled in my second round. All was going well ( sort of ) was moving along at -3 on 12. No problem, I was getting momentum and I figured that in order to stay up here in C I would need rounds of 66’s at least. There were signs however that this round was not going to be what I wanted. Too many bogies today. Finished at even par so stuck at -6 after 2. Going to need to shoot the lights out now or back to D I go.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 10:43:06 GMT -5
Lake Tahoe (and not even from the tips)Par 3s: 228, 234, 227, 199 - I'm all for a long Par 3, but limit 225+ to 1 at most. Then maybe 1 other can be 200-215, but the others should be no more than 180. Par 4s: 502, 491, 481, 506, 472 - A 502 starting hole? 329, 310, 329 - They look like yardage offset holes instead of risk-reward because of the length of the others Par 5s: 630, 612, 595, 578 - Give the player at least one chance for an eagle putt to soothe the agony. Why does every course need to fit into your personal box? So there are lots of long holes. You (the collective you) can handle it. Personal Box? Didn't know I had one. I'll check the 'junk drawer.' My wife tends to just toss things in there. Critique is not the same as complaint.
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Post by ErixonStone on May 1, 2018 11:44:40 GMT -5
Any time we (the collective we) think something "should be" done a particular way, we need to think, "why should it be done that way." We'll probably determine that we are projecting our own likes and dislikes onto something. When you say, "There should be one (and only one) par 3 hole in excess of 220 yards," ask yourself why you think that. Is that an opinion? Even if your opinion matches the consensus, no one is beholden to your opinion. In this instance, I think many players would agree with your preferences, but it doesn't mean that someone who disagrees is wrong. Not everyone is going to like every course we play, and that's OK. Dan and I are charged with providing a season with a wide variety of courses and challenges. We don't expect everyone to like every course. This week, the course is longer than usual and a bit more challenging than usual. But it doesn't do anything in an unfair way.
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