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Post by jivesinator on Sept 22, 2017 13:24:45 GMT -5
Finished up an idea for a mid-long par 3 so here it is. Idea is for it to favor fades into most positions and have the player fearful of missing right. It would probably work well after a hole with danger on the left side and maybe towards the end of the card? I dunno, just an idea, you choose whether to use it or not Looks like a hole straight out of a Nicklaus course Interesting that you say that, the hole was inspired by two par 3s on local courses, one of which is a Nicklaus design.
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Sept 22, 2017 15:00:14 GMT -5
How the duck do I upload a pic You can use an image hosting site. If you need you can send the picture to me and I'll be happy to put it up on here. Funny you say that, because you're picture has disappeared for me...not even following the direct link works for some reason. Makes no sense...
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Sept 22, 2017 15:19:52 GMT -5
Well folks, I've learned a major factor today - it takes much, much longer to try and replicate another person's sketched out idea vs. simply building something in your own mind. In hindsight, not sure why I'm surprised by that Anyway... ok Terry Grayson ...here we go, this is what I came up with... [nervous fidgeting]
(please forgive graphics quality, didn't go back in and waste 10 minutes getting everything to look like sparkling hi-def on screen)
You'll see the obvious differences. To be honest, there are more small differences in what the final result is vs what I had in mind going in, most/all of which basically were results of how things came together. Hope it's not a complete abomination of what you had in mind . The drive is pretty damn fun to play, despite the green not being raised as you had noted. The little neck of fairway, if hit, gives a subtle kick down to the green - but it's not an easy target. Downwind, I'd say the little finger/section of the green nearest the water is reachable (maybe..), but even if it isn't, I think this is a really cool short par 4. At some point along the line, maybe sometime this weekend, I'll publish a beta so everyone can give it a go. I would ideally like to have a few of yall's sketches created, but not sure how many I'll be able to complete given how long this single hole took. Hope you're OK with the build Terry, and thanks again for your willingness to throw out the 1st sketch!
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Post by Friz on Sept 22, 2017 15:22:35 GMT -5
Ok, lets not get carried away with the high quality of my artwork...i know it looks pretty but i still should clarify the design clearly meant to give some freedom to the actual designer in terms of bunker shape, green shape, etc. But the idea is simply a risk/reward par 5. Fairway is broken into three sections, with the second being the obvious "go for it in 2" shot from the tee. They're separated by playable but unpleasant crap, and a roughly 285 carry to the second portion from the back tee makes decision making on your tee shot crucial. Bunkers also make accuracy additionally important if you go for it. Decision has to be made right away from the tee though if you're going for it, while the aggressive play carries the aforementioned risk, laying up off the tee makes a more straightforward hole to get on in 3.
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Post by titaneddie on Sept 22, 2017 15:31:47 GMT -5
Well folks, I've learned a major factor today - it takes much, much longer to try and replicate another person's sketched out idea vs. simply building something in your own mind. In hindsight, not sure why I'm surprised by that Ha, couldn't agree more Justin. When I try to design or replicate a hole I find....it usually never works out and by the time I'm done its usually something completely different lol. Great idea this is though! Enjoying seeing the sketches.
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Sept 22, 2017 17:30:56 GMT -5
Thought I would quickly play through the initial "rough draft" of the first 10 - including my interpretation of Terry's hole. Much to be done, but hopefully this gives an idea of the general feel of the course thus far. BTW Friz - great sketch, thanks for pitching in! No joke, what you posted was more along the lines of what I was asking for/expecting, and is awesome because of exactly what you said - gives some freedom for interpretation. I obviously love the incredibly detailed ones, but I just want to be sure to mention that the more straight-forward one's such as yours are more than welcome. Thanks man!
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Post by Terry Grayson on Sept 22, 2017 18:02:17 GMT -5
Well folks, I've learned a major factor today - it takes much, much longer to try and replicate another person's sketched out idea vs. simply building something in your own mind. In hindsight, not sure why I'm surprised by that Anyway... ok Terry Grayson ...here we go, this is what I came up with... [nervous fidgeting]
(please forgive graphics quality, didn't go back in and waste 10 minutes getting everything to look like sparkling hi-def on screen)
You'll see the obvious differences. To be honest, there are more small differences in what the final result is vs what I had in mind going in, most/all of which basically were results of how things came together. Hope it's not a complete abomination of what you had in mind . The drive is pretty damn fun to play, despite the green not being raised as you had noted. The little neck of fairway, if hit, gives a subtle kick down to the green - but it's not an easy target. Downwind, I'd say the little finger/section of the green nearest the water is reachable (maybe..), but even if it isn't, I think this is a really cool short par 4. At some point along the line, maybe sometime this weekend, I'll publish a beta so everyone can give it a go. I would ideally like to have a few of yall's sketches created, but not sure how many I'll be able to complete given how long this single hole took. Hope you're OK with the build Terry, and thanks again for your willingness to throw out the 1st sketch! Dude you rocked it..... Even though its reverse, that's exactly what I saw in my mind when drawing that..... You absolutely nailed the layout and the bunkering..... I'm ok with the green not being raised, matter of fact after seeing it in the designer I like that better.....If I were designer the absolute only thing I would so from there is, add fairway on the far back and far back right of the green, and have it slope heavily toward the water for those "errant" shots I can surely hit ha ha ha Pretty cool to see a thought you have nailed by someone else in the designer....Nice work sir
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Sept 23, 2017 7:03:47 GMT -5
Dude you rocked it..... Even though its reverse, that's exactly what I saw in my mind when drawing that..... You absolutely nailed the layout and the bunkering..... I'm ok with the green not being raised, matter of fact after seeing it in the designer I like that better.....If I were designer the absolute only thing I would so from there is, add fairway on the far back and far back right of the green, and have it slope heavily toward the water for those "errant" shots I can surely hit ha ha ha Pretty cool to see a thought you have nailed by someone else in the designer....Nice work sir Ah, that's awesome to hear! Was a bit worried with this being my first attempt, really really pleased you think it came out well. Oh, and with the extra fairway around the green - I actually meant to go back and do that...completely forgot lol so it'll definitely be added in.
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Post by coruler2 on Sept 23, 2017 11:08:20 GMT -5
That's a well-built hole there by Terry and Justin! I'm ready to play this course :0
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Post by mrvinegar206 on Sept 23, 2017 13:01:28 GMT -5
Thank you, Jives, for the help. This was a quick sketch I made on my phone while at work. You can change the shape of the bunkers to fit your course, and the fairway doesn't have to be straight lines. I think you get the gist of it. Scale it how ever you want and have trees as close to the fairway as you find fair. Hole locations are front right, back right, back center/left, and somewhere behind the lions' mouth bunker in the bowl.
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Sept 23, 2017 13:32:36 GMT -5
Thank you, Jives, for the help. This was a quick sketch I made on my phone while at work. You can change the shape of the bunkers to fit your course, and the fairway doesn't have to be straight lines. I think you get the gist of it. Scale it how ever you want and have trees as close to the fairway as you find fair. Hole locations are front right, back right, back center/left, and somewhere behind the lions' mouth bunker in the bowl. Am I the only one not seeing these photo's being uploaded on that strange website I've never heard of (image.ibb.co)? I know John's par 3 sketch was uploaded with a similar url, so it must be something with the site & my computer (firewall/malwarebytes?) - but it makes no sense how I saw it in the morning, and then I haven't been able to get it to load since. Anyway, can someone upload through imgur or another site so I'm able to see the images?
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Post by jivesinator on Sept 23, 2017 13:44:34 GMT -5
Thank you, Jives, for the help. This was a quick sketch I made on my phone while at work. You can change the shape of the bunkers to fit your course, and the fairway doesn't have to be straight lines. I think you get the gist of it. Scale it how ever you want and have trees as close to the fairway as you find fair. Hole locations are front right, back right, back center/left, and somewhere behind the lions' mouth bunker in the bowl. Am I the only one not seeing these photo's being uploaded on that strange website I've never heard of (image.ibb.co)? I know John's par 3 sketch was uploaded with a similar url, so it must be something with the site & my computer (firewall/malwarebytes?) - but it makes no sense how I saw it in the morning, and then I haven't been able to get it to load since. Anyway, can someone upload through imgur or another site so I'm able to see the images? They're both from my account (I sent the link over to Vinegar), I'll try to put both up on Imgur.
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Sept 23, 2017 13:45:07 GMT -5
Alright Mr. Han ....here's what I've got from yours. If I thought Terry's took longer than normal...man, this had to be nearly double. To be honest, I don't feel like I was fully able to hit your vision (frustrating, and part of the reason I've spent so long tinkering with it), mostly because I struggle to get that vision to really 100% mesh with the existing terrain and general feel of the first 11 holes - but this is the end result of an embarrassing number of hours of work. That said, I hope you are able tell how I tried to adapt and incorporate your awesome design. If nothing else, it's a pretty damn fun hole to play that makes you think off of the tee, and will completely change depending on wind direction. That hill was a b%& to try and get right lol. What you'll see below is about the 15th iteration of it, but it's IMO the most playable yet (was waaaay too steep on the backside, too tall, too wide...basically "too much" in every way possible at one point or another). Oh, btw, it's a complete pain in the ass to try and get these damn brushes and/or splines to mesh halfway cleanly and create the fairway outline you drew that drove me up the wall. Anyhow, here's a quick video of me play-testing, thought that would be better/easier than images. Hope this isn't too much of a letdown for you....
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Sept 23, 2017 13:48:15 GMT -5
They're both from my account (I sent the link over to Vinegar), I'll try to put both up on Imgur or Photobucket. Don't mess with photobucket, they've changed their image hosting policy for free accounts (which I assume you don't have). Just go to imgur.com, click on "new post," and either copy/past or drag the file into your web browser window. It's super easy. Once it has uploaded, hover your mouse over the image and a couple of options will appear ontop of the photo. Click the down arrow, choose "get share links," and copy the link for BBCode. Just paste that code in your post (make sure to click the "BBCode" tab instead of "Preview" when your posting your message here) and you're set. P.s. Sorry if you already know all of that just figured I'd throw out the walk-through in case anyone else wasn't sure how to post an image.
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Post by jivesinator on Sept 23, 2017 13:50:12 GMT -5
These should work, tell me if they don't
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