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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2018 14:04:31 GMT -5
He tried to get rid of Obamacare but it did not go through. He has tried to build his wall but he has not gotten the support.
I voted for him for deregulation and tax breaks on small business. He has done both.
Do you think Obamacare is a good thing? HOw much a month do you pay for insurance? I pay about 600 a month right now. That is because I am on my wife's plan who works as a nures as a hospital. If she does not work ( she didn't for both boys for 2 years) I will be paying 2000-2500 a month and it is dog sh%$. Is that fair?
I really do not care about the wall. Whatever is clever let them in. We need to workers and it keeps wages down.
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Post by ErixonStone on Dec 7, 2018 14:07:33 GMT -5
Also if you know Trump's history a lot of the deals he made when he was younger were backed by NYC government which I'm guessing were Democrats. Mayor DeBlasio is the first Democratic mayor of NYC since 1993. Before that, Ed Koch (pronounced "Kotch", not "Coke") and David Dinkins were Democratic mayors. Dinkins served one term before being voted out. His most notable achievement was getting LaGuardia Airport to alter its flight patterns so that planes wouldn't fly directly over Flushing Meadows during the US Open (Tennis).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2018 14:15:14 GMT -5
Which basically is take money from the wealthy and big corporations and give it the poor and middle class. Yes! Because having more people with more spending money drives the economy and creates jobs as businesses scramble to increase capacity in order to capitalize on the increased demand. What do wealthy people need more money for? What will they do with it? You also believe letting millions of undocumented immigrants is a good thing while your birth rates are low. What "millions" are you talking about? The few thousand migrants that are seeking asylum (which is a legal process, btw)? Yes, allowing 5000 poor migrants fleeing their oppressive homeland into the country where they are guaranteed very little except opportunity is a good thing. Why do you get to decide what people do with their money. I get it is about paying their fair share but they never will. How do you tax something that does not exist. You realize the wealthy have all that money hidden or washed. You will never get it. So give it up. Let's say you do get this money you want. You give it to the poor. They then spend it on goods and services. Which goes right back to wealthy which own most of the country. Then what? I was talking about Europe. Ohh yea I am sure all 5000 of them were seeking asylum. Let them in like I said in the post above. It will just lower wages which again just helps the wealthy more. You guys can dream about this magical place where everyone is equal and we no longer have income inequality. The problem is natural selection cannot be removed. The strongest will always come out on top. You can try and stop it but mother nature is a b%&.
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Dec 7, 2018 14:40:48 GMT -5
Let's say you do get this money you want. You give it to the poor. They then spend it on goods and services. Which goes right back to wealthy which own most of the country. Then what? Then the businesses grow and employ more people, because a previously un-tapped group of people are able to shop/spend since they have slightly more money and aren't as worried about having a roof over their head or food to eat for their family? Which in turn may take some of those folks below the poverty line and lift them up with the opportunity to find steady, reliable, livable income as a result of business's need to expand, and therefor either a) increase workforce, or b) increase the expertise/competency of workforce, which requires an increase in wages. All that said, it still doesn't protect from those increased earnings being kept by executive bonuses and shareholder dividends, though, as we've seen play out in many cases following trumps tax break with some larger companies. So as always, there is no perfect answer, but it doesn't mean we should just throw our hands up and say "oh well" as we walk back into our own corners to only worry about ourselves.
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Post by ErixonStone on Dec 7, 2018 14:49:54 GMT -5
Let's say you do get this money you want. You give it to the poor. They then spend it on goods and services. Which goes right back to wealthy which own most of the country. Then what? Repeat. More people have jobs due to increased demand. Fewer people are in need of assistance meaning there are more tax dollars for fewer people in need. We spend it on things like education and healthcare, reducing the out-of-pocket costs of those vital services. There becomes a larger pool of talent across all industries, meaning businesses are more efficient. We export more because we can capitalize on untapped markets. We borrow less, meaning we hemorrhage less away for nothing. People with good ideas and who work hard still get rich. But there's a point at which wealthy and uber-wealthy are indistinguishable. What's the point of making a wealthy person into an uber-wealthy person? Isn't that money better served to turn 10 uneducated people into 10 educated people?
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Post by nevadaballin on Dec 7, 2018 15:03:06 GMT -5
This is what a neo liberal dictatorship looks like... I think that's what every dictatorship looks like... lol.
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Post by paulus on Dec 7, 2018 15:10:13 GMT -5
We can't stop people murdering each other either. Should we give up on enforcement of law?
All that it takes to collect taxes from the uber wealthy is a mandate from the people. The defeatist & very weak "so give up" attitude has been part of the problem up until now - the rich white men at the top know just how to keep you distracted with the immigrant bogey man, while you carry on voting for their tax breaks.
But thankfully crusty old farts die eventually & the youngsters are very switched on to where all our money is really going. The only constant in life is change. It's coming.
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Post by nevadaballin on Dec 7, 2018 15:11:04 GMT -5
He tried to get rid of Obamacare but it did not go through. He has tried to build his wall but he has not gotten the support. I voted for him for deregulation and tax breaks on small business. He has done both. Do you think Obamacare is a good thing? HOw much a month do you pay for insurance? I pay about 600 a month right now. That is because I am on my wife's plan who works as a nures as a hospital. If she does not work ( she didn't for both boys for 2 years) I will be paying 2000-2500 a month and it is dog sh%$. Is that fair? I really do not care about the wall. Whatever is clever let them in. We need to workers and it keeps wages down. Tax breaks and deregulation. Both are garbage. That health cost complaining... universal health care would help ya there but you refuse to acknowledge its truth. Besides, I thought you boy Trump was going to fix that health care problem? Oh no, wait. I forgot. Everything was already supposed to be fixed before he took office (such a worn out comment he makes.... "this/that/the other should have been fixed already. Everyone else before me should have fixed everything" My lord that dude is so tiring. I do hope someone kicks him in the ass on the way out. #MuellerIsComing
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Post by nevadaballin on Dec 7, 2018 17:40:30 GMT -5
If you believe that people migrating illegally under a misdemeanor law should be prosecuted to the max extent of the law ..... and you also truthfully believe no one is above the law.... then you must also believe that Trump should be indicted and tried in a court of law in light of today's court filings by SDNY.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2018 18:36:30 GMT -5
Seriously do enjoy putting words in my mouth?
When did I ever say that? If get caught you should be taken back to the border and let go. Again let them if you want. They just take the jobs that most Americans won't do. At least the work and most of them are not crying liberals. Also as I said before Mexico just elected a lefty so why are they leaving to come to a country that is so hard to make a livable wage? Makes no sense to me.
I have not had time to look at this new information Trump.
I will say this if it ever went to court your key witnesses are not very creditable. Any defense attorney would rip them to pieces.
Keep the dream alive though!
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Post by cliffs on Dec 7, 2018 20:04:22 GMT -5
They are as credible as Donald is.
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Post by nevadaballin on Dec 7, 2018 21:36:43 GMT -5
I have not had time to look at this new information Trump. I will say this if it ever went to court your key witnesses are not very creditable. Any defense attorney would rip them to pieces. Keep the dream alive though! i didn't put words in your mouth (unsure who you are talking to but the post is right after mine). Documentation and communications evidence to collaborate witness statements make those statements extremely credible. As of right now, the SDNY has connected Trump to two crimes. And Mueller hasn't even really got going yet. Keep in mind, the SDNY is very experienced in investigating crime families. This is going to get a lot worse for the Traitor than his criminal ass bargained for.
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Post by karma4u on Dec 7, 2018 22:29:26 GMT -5
Everyone believed Sammy "the bull". A different "Don" though. Don't worry, Rudy to the rescue.
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Post by joegolferg on Dec 8, 2018 4:19:38 GMT -5
Well it's a fact that left wing parties are now leading the polls in both Germany and France. Both parties, you would definitely consider to be far left. We're not spinning anything, it's a fact. Ok great. I'm sure that will solve Europes problems. Even higher taxes and more solar panels. Explain to me how full on socialism would benefit the small business community. Which drives the county through the free market , competition and innovation. Do you know what the main reason small businesses get things done? It's because we don't have all the red tape and we solve problems quickly. I don't have to have 15 meetings to solve a problem. I just make a decision and we go. It wouldn't personally benefit you. I'd nationalize your company, distribute the wealth equally among all people in your area and I'd build a gulag just to put you in it. You'd get a raw potato, bread and water. A ps4 for the weekend with TGC 2019, but you can only play on little brook manor and with full assists. This would continue until you see the error of your ways.
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Post by cliffs on Dec 8, 2018 6:48:47 GMT -5
Donnie boy has a new word he has to look up....SYNERGY
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